Leader Of the Free World

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  1. see you next tuesday

    see you next tuesday Active Member

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    I wonder if someone can hep me.

    For ages now, I've always heard that the president of the USA is "Leader of the free world".

    I've been looking at a globe and i just can't find the "free world" that people speak of.

    Any advice on the location of this free world would be much appreciated.
     
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    I have warned Americans for years that relying on a written down "free speech" amendment to some bit of paper called a "constitution" is and was a bad thing. Freedom is something you fight for every day

    But not with a gun because that way lies anarchy and civil war

    It relies on ordinary every day people speaking out and saying "This is not acceptable" or "This is what should happen"
     
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    This all sounds great but its not helping me find the free world!

    We don't fight for freedom every day because "freedom" means different things to different people in different locations.

    Americans love the word freedom don't they - freedom this, freedom that.
     
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    Free world starts within you grasshopper

    I will continue this tomorrow ok? ;)
     
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    Nobody see you at the leader of the free world outside USA especially since the war in irak.

    A lot of your allies seems to see you rather than as a friend more dangerous that a lot of ennemies.

    Democratic traditions of western europe are already deeply different between the countries, their is constitutionnal monarchy, their is republics, their is federal states. Each of them are extremly different, but the difference between the democratic traditions of Europe and EU is even bigger.
     
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    For all the Totalitarian types who don't want to participate in the freedoms written down in the first amendment of the U.S. Constitution, try heading over to one of those South America or Central America banana republics for a little visit. Enjoy some of the roasted grasshoppers while you're there. Good luck if you ain't got no pistol...
     
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    USA supported a lot of dictatorial regimes, the better known is Pinochet.
     
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    You can lose freedom in a lot of ways

    Being forced to work for someone you do not like doing a job you disagree with because this is the only way to have health insurance, would be, for me, an ultimate loss of freedom

    One would think that Australia is one of the prime examples of 'free world" but we do not have a constituation the way America has - what we have instead is an ingrained "sod you" attitude. If someone decided to invade tomorrow I think they would find that herding feral cats would be easier than getting a large proportion of our society to agree to do what they do not wish to do.

    Britain has had a "don't push US around" attitude since Runnymeade and the Magna Carta

    Ir you truly wish to learn about the modern ideas of freedom read that document

    Enlightening!!
     
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    Found it yet? I'm 53 and I've never found it either. :)
     
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    Add the ability to drink at 18 and then we'll debate "freedom" ;0)
     
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    POTUS has been the leader of the free world since the 13-colonies and their coalition booted the U.K. out of the the U.S.
    Sounds like a states rights issue...
     
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    Sounds like a lack of freedom to me.
     
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    It used to be the land of the free and home of the brave, but it's becoming more like the land of the regulated... Socialism makes the individual the slave of the state and capitalism frees them.
     
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    Its why i hope Donald builds the wall - That way, you'd be the and of the free living behind a dirty great wall which would never not been funny.

    In an ideal world, I'd like "Land Of The Free" painted in huge letters on the wall but the comedy gods would probably say its going to far.

    "The free World" - Funny concept isn't it.
     
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    I'm pretty sure freedom is just a word and "the free world" is like Wonderland :(
     

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