Trump Takes Aim At A Centerpiece Of Obama's Environmental Legacy.....

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    After suffering a defeat over Repealing and Replacing BO care. Trump comes Right back with signing an EO and going after BO peeps centerpiece on Climate Change. Thus crushing the Peeps Legacy. While showing the Demos just how he is going to keep the ball rolling with taking BO's legacy apart piece by piece. This is a good move while waiting on some legislation and the Gorsuch Victory coming his way.

    Trump will play on this and even make a Symbolic gesture out of it. Which that will tick off the MS media since they wont be able to shut the matter down nor ignore it. What say ye?


    President Trump will sign sweeping executive orders Tuesday that take aim at a number of his predecessor's climate policies.


    The wide-ranging orders and accompanying memorandums will seek to undo the centerpiece of former President Obama's environmental legacy and national efforts to address climate change.


    In a symbolic gesture, the president is expected to sign the documents at EPA headquarters......snip~


    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...nmental-legacy
     
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    He is slowly undoing everything Obama did so we can move the country forward.
     
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    The Demos and their Cult got out there bragging about his defeat over Repeal and Replace. He now comes Right back at the Demos and hits them Dead Center with a bullseye. Goes Right after their Special Mans Legacy.




    The Clean Power Plan was an ambitious effort by the Obama administration to cut carbon emissions by nearly 30 percent from 2005 level by 2025. Both Democratic and Republican attorneys general opposed it, over half the states opposed it, and it targeted those living in rural America. Pretty much any state that voted for Romney in 2012 was going to get screwed over by this regulatory overhaul. In coal-producing states, like West Virginia, energy costs were projected to increase 20 percent.


    The Supreme Court stayed one of the main provisions, the power plant regulation, last year. Such increases in energy costs also put fixed-income seniors in the crosshairs. The ozone regulations between 2008-2013 cost a projected $56.6 billion in lost wages, along with 242,000 jobs. If Obama had succeeded in the war on coal, 125,800 jobs would’ve been lost in total, along with $650 billion in GDP. Moreover, millions of jobs from the black and Hispanic communities could have been on the chopping block......snip~


    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...genda-n2305053
     
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    Obama was elected during the worst economic recession since the great depression on the promise that he would turn the economy around. Instead he completed the economic initiatives that Bush started, and then moved on to one of the most unpopular health care reform bills in US history. Obamacare has been a huge economic burden on the middle-class and businesses both small and large all across the country. On top of that, he rammed in more government oversight and regulations including environmental regulations which further burdened the economic recovery. The economy recovered over the course of Obama's 8 years in spite of Obama, not because of him, hence the reason it was the slowest recovery in US history. Stating that, I am for reasonable environmental protections, but you need to balance these protections/regulations with the economic reality of the day. That includes the maturity of green technology such as biofuels, wind, and solar, all of which are not mature enough to be economically viable at this point. You can't force a square peg through a round hole and expect good results.
     
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    He even has the Euros seeing there is no point in wasting money on a failed BO peep idea. Imagine that.


    The winds of climate change restraint are felt overseas as well. Representatives of the Group of 20 nations, meeting in Germany earlier this month, dropped from their final communique an affirmation of efforts to shower more government money on “green” projects. “Climate change,” says one government official, “is out for the time being.”......snip~

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-boondogglers/


    Aint that something.....The Euros are taking money advice from Trump
     
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    The point is to release the US economy from burdensome regulation, while maintaining first world protections of our environment and the incredible natural resources we have in this nation.

    For example, the new overtime rules which were introduced (and immediately suspended) under Barack Obama, the Trump Administration is doing further work on. The change Obama made (and immediately suspended) would have doubled the maximum base salary for workers who must receive time and a half for overtime even if their employer classifies them as “management.” (Bloomberg)

    Millions of additional white-collar workers were poised to gain overtime eligibility last December under Obama’s change until it was blocked by a federal judge in Texas. If allowed to take effect, the change would double, to $913 per week, the threshold beneath which employees must be paid time-and-a-half even if designated as managers.

    In different economic times, America’s economy would be booming to the point where employers would need to offer these sorts of incentives absent any government regulations just to land capable workers. Unfortunately, we’re nowhere near that point. The practice of taking low level employees and classifying them as “management” or professionals or anything else to move them out of the time and a half overtime category is widespread enough that it’s clearly being abused.

    But doubling the threshold in a single swipe will deliver a shock to the system which could easily end up forcing employers to cut back on hiring and depress the recovery.

    We also have the problem of mandatory union fees being deducted from government workers’ paychecks even if they weren’t union members. Friedrichs v. California went all the way to the Supreme Court where the justices split 4-4. Amazingly, 4 Justices are so deep in the pockets of Government Unions, that actually ruled in favor of deducting union dues, automatically, even from non union government workers!

    Soon, the government employees’ unions will no longer be able to pick the pockets of workers and donate the money to politicians who the employees may not support. That’s no way to do business.

    So, Trump tweaks this, Trump tweaks that, and hopefully, first thing you know, we are accumulating income faster than debt, for a change, while continuing to protect our air and water and clean up old hazardous waste sites that threaten our water supplies. And what about the old lead plumbing that poisons our children's drinking water in the inner cities? Could the EPA lend a hand in that badly needed clean up?

    EPA seems to like to keep very busy on things OTHER than cleaning our society of pollutants. Trump is going to make the EPA great again!
     
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    Plus Trump will be helping Seniors, Blacks, Hispanics, and the Coal Industry. Its a Win win all the around.
     
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    LIVE BY THE PEN AND PHONE, DIE BY THE PEN AND PHONE: Trump takes biggest swing yet at Obama climate legacy.

    Trump plans to order the EPA to rewrite tough rules that make it virtually impossible to build a new coal-fired power plant, and he will tell the Interior Department to end Obama’s [war] on new coal mines on federal lands...

    The president’s energy independence executive order will repeal several Obama environmental directives aimed at reducing the federal government’s own carbon footprint, and it will direct agencies to ferret out any additional policies that result in impediments to U.S. energy production, likely, restrictions on fracking and offshore drilling. The president will stop federal regulators from using the “social cost of carbon” [Obamian silliness] which attempts to quantify the effects of climate change, in economic analyses of future rules.

    The federal government will no longer seek to punish American consumers and businesses for using the energy resources that fuel our economy.

    Excellent. The key to energy independence, is for the nattering nabobs to get the hell out of our way!
     
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    Trump is fundamentally transforming America.........back.
     
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    Back when we were prosperous, had a vibrant middle class and working inner cities, back when our infrastructure was the class of the world, and our rate of economic growth was greater than our rate of debt accumulation.

    I REMEMBER WHEN EXPRESSING DOUBTS ABOUT “PEAK OIL” GOT YOU CALLED A SHILL FOR EXXON: New Crude Found in UK Waters.

    “Peak oil” decriers must be used to feeling foolish at this point, but their folly continues (and will continue) to be exposed by discoveries of new oil supplies. The latest example comes to us courtesy of the North Sea waters off the shore of the UK’s Shetland islands, where the oil exploration firm Hurricane Energy claims to have found the country’s biggest new offshore reserve of extractable oil in more than a dozen years. . . .

    Many more wells will need to be drilled before we can get a reliably accurate estimate of how much oil Hurricane has discovered, but this is a very good start and comes as something of a lifeline for Britain’s offshore oil industry. North Sea oil supplies made the UK a net exporter of crude in the 1980s, but since then the region’s output has fallen considerably as fields have matured and new discoveries have failed to make up that difference. The collapse in crude prices over the past two years was especially hard on the industry, whose operating costs are among the highest in the world.

    In the face of all of this, the UK has been using every tool in its possession to cajole investors to continue to scour its waters for reserves like the one Hurricane just found. North Sea operating costs have fallen 45 percent in recent years. If that trend continues and exploration keeps yielding valuable new discoveries like this latest one, there might yet be life for Britain’s offshore oil and gas industry.

    I also remember when Barack Obama said we couldn’t “drill our way out of” high gas and oil prices.
     
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    Yeah, back to thinking BO peep just wasn't as Special as the leftness made him out to be.


    The Clean Power Plan was an ambitious effort by the Obama administration to cut carbon emissions by nearly 30 percent from 2005 level by 2025. Both Democratic and Republican attorneys general opposed it, over half the states opposed it, and it targeted those living in rural America. Pretty much any state that voted for Romney in 2012 was going to get screwed over by this regulatory overhaul. In coal-producing states, like West Virginia, energy costs were projected to increase 20 percent.


    The Supreme Court stayed one of the main provisions, the power plant regulation, last year. Such increases in energy costs also put fixed-income seniors in the crosshairs. The ozone regulations between 2008-2013 cost a projected $56.6 billion in lost wages, along with 242,000 jobs. If Obama had succeeded in the war on coal, 125,800 jobs would’ve been lost in total, along with $650 billion in GDP. Moreover, millions of jobs from the black and Hispanic communities could have been on the chopping block......snip~


    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...genda-n2305053
     
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    BO peep.....I have pen and phone I can reach several. Trump.....I have a Pen and Twitter. I can reach 20 million. :lol:
     
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    So Obama accomplished nothing but a no good health care bill in 8 years. Yes Democrats love this guy , why?
     
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    Because they thought he could stop the rise of the Oceans.....and that he was Special. He tricked them with all that stuttering he did.

    Demos and their Cult can easily be tricked and played for marks.
     
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    Hopefully all of the Green (Jill Stein) voters are overjoyed to have facilitated the election of this environmental champion.
     
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    And they still are being tricked. The Russians are coming .
     
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    Yeah, as you can see the leftness just cant stand when Trump keeps taking apart BO peeps legacy.
     
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    Can you blame them ? Obama is responsible for the sun shining every day , Trump wants the sun to go out , and all gore invented the Internet, and Elizabeth Warren is so in touch with the poor and her Indian heritage that she sold her mansions .
     
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    Just another case of the Boomers salting the earth before they go. Good luck getting millennials to vote for your decrepit backwards party over the next decade or so as the Boomers lose voting power and the millennials decide that they've had enough.
     
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    What do you expect from someone bowing to coal and gas companies?

    Climate Change is real, this is just Trump trying to divert America from actually making progress on something.
     
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    At least you can admit to all those Demos that voted for Trump. Just wait until they divide over who becomes blue collar workers.
     
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    No this is Trump helping seniors. Blacks Hispanics and the Coal industry. This is Trump correcting BO peeps over reach.


    The green lobby and its subsidy-suckling friends in industry who celebrated President Barack Obama's unilateral climate actions will take a loss on Tuesday when President Trump begins undoing the previous administration's emissions rules.


    The Clean Power Plan was a naked executive overreach riding on the back of alarmist manipulation of climate science. Anyone concerned with good government, the energy sector, or sound science should applaud the administration's actions.


    So Democrats opted for the less democratic path of dubious executive action. Obama issued regulations, leaning on the Clean Air Act, that regulate power plants' emissions of carbob dioxide as though it were a pollutant, even though it is plant food — the world is getting greener — and it's also what we breath.


    Republican-governed states sued to overturn the rule and succeeded in blocking it temporarily in court. Trump's actions on Tuesday will begin the process of undoing the deceptively euphonious Clean Power Plan.


    This action is proper as a matter of constitutional separation of powers. If the federal government is to regulate the emission of carbon dioxide, then Congress should pass a law to regulate the emission of carbon dioxide. But when Democrats had a huge House majority, a filibuster-proof Senate supermajority and a president who pledged to stop the oceans' rise, they still declined to do so. Even in those extraordinary circumstances, the measure cannot be passed democratically. But Obama, never one to trouble himself over the niceties of democratic propriety when it stands in the way of his agenda, shoved it down the country's throat anyway.


    Maybe Democrats should campaign on such regulations in 2018 and 2020 and see if the voters like the idea of making electricity and everything else manufactured in America more expensive. We suspect they won't, because they know voters won't buy it. Most polls show that the public is concerned about climate change but not enough to pay a lot more for energy......snip~


    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ki...rticle/2618605
     
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    False statements.

    Prove these lies, or stop talking, you embarrass yourself.
     
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    This does not qualify as a legit post^^^^
    It's not even qualified enough to be called hogwash.
     
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    Not a fan of executive orders. If you want something done work with congress, don't try and circumvent it.
     

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