Don't like California? Then get out

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    And stay out.

    I completely understand Americans have gone absolutely nuts these days/ Whether its the economy, or Trump's Toxic Twitter, maintaining sanity isn't a joke anymore. The problem is now the radically conservative are in power. Who are radical conservatives you say? Those who promote nationalism, the people who put ego before country like Nigel Farage. Not only has the Republican Party been hijacked by nationalistic extremists, but America as a whole has as well. I, for one, have come to that reality. What say you?

    But this idea of "Calexit" (like the nonsensical Brexit) is undeniable proof Americans cannot think sensibly, let alone logically. Someone has to say it, possibly be hated for it, but it has to be said. Our school system isn't perfect by any means, but really people. These radicalized stunts like Calexit have other countries literally laughing at us. Trump is nothing but a joke to the Germans. And his approval numbers are showing he is becoming the same to everyday Americans. If you don't like California, and you live in California, then do us all a favor, and get the hell out. I, for one, love the scenery and the diversity here, and the fact my state has shown its teeth at Trump drives you nuts enough you want us gone. This is a scathing post, but it needs said.

    So, you gun club members and talk radio enthusiasts, get the hell out of California. Our state is much better off without you senselessly cheering Nigel Farage on. Just don't expect the tech giants who have CHOSEN to stay here to do any service to you. Decide to live without Facebook, or Google. Or give up Uber, and yes Netflix too. And forfeit that Tesla while you're at it, its too Californian for you. Like SoCal punk rock drives you nuts, our beliefs drive you nuts Consider this escorting you out of this West Coast nightclub. Oh, and don't expect Disney or Warner Bros to pay you favors either. Hand in that Corona-made Fender guitar, and that CA-made Mesa Boogie head.

    For you Calexit supporters, its all too Californian for you. Simply put, this idea is a stupid idea on behalf of the supporters and Farage himself. He's already doomed Britain, don't bring the poison.

    Oh yeah, and we're not a state of illegal immigrants, the creatures of San Francisco and LA are vast, and are American citizens. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

    Sincerely,
    California
     
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    What used to be the USA no longer exists except in name. It it time to recognize that the West Coast generally does not share common values with the central and S US. They are a threat to our freedoms and it will only get worse. This country simply cannot exist any longer.

    It isn't just Trump's election, it is the people who elected him. Do you think they won't be voting for another madman the next time? Do you really want to trust your liberty to what a bible thumper in Alabama wants?

    Do you trust that after Trump is gone, another even more dangerous dictator type won't come along and sell his line of crap all over again? We have gone a bridge too far. It is over.

    Trump was our Brexit.

    I no longer trust American voters. Do you?
     
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    We're going to turn California purple through mass deportations.
     
  4. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree. And if liberals don't like traditional American values, get out of the U.S.! Leave! And stop trying to change America. We don't need radical change and we don't need you.
     
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    Unfortunately, I don't think they will learn their lesson till they break it, or die off, whichever comes first.
     
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    Please define "traditional American values", because I seriously doubt conservatives haven't got a clue anymore. Trump is nowhere near what that term used to mean.
     
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    While I understand your feelings and frustration, I cannot support your conclusion.
    I remember the Nixon days - the lowest point for America in my life - until now - anyway under the rabid Nixon era there were no-necks who would chant "America - love it or leave it". I will NOT give up my country to the less-evolved cretins, the brownshirts. I don't know what it will take to get thru and introduce reality, but maybe the drugs will wear off or run out, or maybe it will dawn on them that they have been duped by the con man. To drive away those that don't agree with me would make me as low as the fascists I despise.
    We all have a right to disagree. Even when they are totally wrong.
     
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    California - $1 Trillion in debt and it is growing.
     
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    Many Democrats and the DNC go to never ending lengths to publicly explain how much they despise about 90% of Americans and voters. It is the Democratic Party's campaign tactic: to so viciously attack the USA, Americans and voters that voters will vote Democratic just to try to get them to stop trying to destroy the USA and everyone's life. The Democratic Party has become like some desperate madman with a grenade shouting at an ex in a room with her children: "say you love me or I'll blow us all up!"
     
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    you got it! Police your own cities, put out your fires, and grow your own food. While your at it, find your own water instead of taking the entire colorado river. Arrogant, exclusionary condescending crap. Good riddance. Good luck with the cartels and gangs!
     
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    And Trump spent the whole campaign implying that America was some sort of dystopian wasteland with Muslims and Mexicans killing everyone in the streets. Conservatives are the one's who despise America, selling out our privacy, building oil pipelines near our water, curbing protests, trying to take away healthcare, defunding every social program we have in favor of bloated military, forcing children into whatever bathrooms they feel like, denying women control over their bodies, making it harder to vote, cutting environmental regulations to leave us all vulnerable. All so they can give tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations, because in their minds that is all America really is.
     
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    Traditional American values (some of the basics):

    1) individualism (vs. collectivism)
    2) hard work and personal achievement
    3) self-reliance
    4) morality (the Judeo-Christian tradition, and not via government)
    5) progress (material comfort)
    6) equality of opportunity (vs. equality of results)
    7) liberty (freedom from an oppressive government)
     
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    Couldn't this same logic be applied to those who live in America but don't like America? Sort of like many of those in.....California?

    I'm sort of confused by the logic here. Calexit isn't real California isn't going anywhere, however, the premise behind Calexit is that many in the state of California do not approve of the direction the US is going with the new Conservative Trump government in power. So they wish to "get the hell out" and many Conservatives who are in support of the current administration are simply telling them to not "let the door hit you on your way out".

    So isn't "Calexit" on a national scale exactly what you are advocating or am I missing something here...Basically what you're saying is that if you don't like California then get out. And many in the US are saying well if you don't like the US then get out, which is what "Calexit" is....
     
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    My daughter's home is in escrow, there will be a realtor sign in front of my home in may, my son will put his up for sale this year as well. I'm a third generation Californian and it will be a happy day when the freeloading state is in my rear view mirror.
     
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    what the drones don't want to admit is that california, as a whole, is not the progressive dystopia they would like to think it is. aside from that non-contiguous band of idiocy along the coast, we are a rationally conservative state. the farms and ranches that feed the unwashed masses huddled in their decaying urban centers and the wealthy do-nothings hidden behind their walled communitites see no need to "radically transform america". the truth is - california's bread-basket doesn't need you and any attempt to split from the american heartland wouldn't include the agricultural centers necessary for california to survive. they will gladly let you have your palm trees, coastal deserts and malodorous slums, but don't expect them to blindly follow along as you import poverty and disease and call it progress.
     
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    I defined traditional American values for you.
     
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    I left Connecticut in 1986, just as the leftists took over state government. I still love Connecticut and consider it to be "home". But I never regretted moving to Texas once in the last 31 years. I love it here in a red state. Dallas is wonderful.
     
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    Viet Vet? Your complaint about Nixons supporters demanded a certain amount of respect for American laws, and institutions? Tell me ... when, (AS IF) you returned from Nam, how were you greeted by Nixon haters? You know, hippies, anti war protesters, Berkeley students.
     
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    there's one thing you forgot - national sovereignty. these drones are so caught up in their "we are the world" mentality and their "we are a nation of immigrants" dogma that they see the very idea of "taking care of our own first" as one of our greatest sins.
     
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    The "CALEXIT" has been a Republican wet dream for years. They think it's a way for them to get a couple of extra Senate seats. What they don't get is that the same idea, with different lines, could get two additional Democratic seats as well as some additional House seats.

    Maybe we should embrace this on a national scale for all of the larger states. Divide New York, Illinois, Texas, Florida as well being sure to gerrymander the lines to ensure additional Democratic seats. I'm sure the Republicans would love the idea.
     
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    Hundreds of smart companies have. They are leaving a state that has lunatic tax and spend liberals.
     
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    Sí, Señor.
     
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    If traditional American values are supposed to be a exclusively Christian society, where marriage is only between men and women, epileptics are not allowed to access to CBD that is proven to help them, and America's "enforcement" that's supposed to care has no regard for human rights with deportation, then no, we don't subscribe to your limiting beliefs intertwined with "traditional American values." Is the fact we are the only industrialized nation that doesn't grant healthcare as a human right not bother you as well, is that part of the traditional American values, bowing to big dogs at insurance companies and pharma?
     
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    this is precisely the sort of tripe we've come to expect from the open borders, change at any cost drones. they would rather not admit that it is those "christian ethics", though they aren't exclusively christian, that created a nation that everyone and his brother would like to live in and that no one is touting christian exclusivity but them. they would like to forget that it was their progressive fore-bearers that first thought up the idea of prohibiting that medicinal herb as a way of controlling and "protecting" the people that they saw as too ignorant to make such decisions for themselves. they want us all to forget that america has been on the leading edge of expanding human rights around the globe since long before it was "cool" to do so and that every rational nation on earth always has and always will control the "privilege" of citizenship and rid themselves of those who are unworthy of that honor or seek to by-pass its regulation. finally, they simply don't care that their cause of the moment, universal health care, is failing in nearly every nation that attempts it and is sucking the economic life out of those that keep trying to make it work.

    every argument these people come up with is based on their own limited view of the world. they interpret everything only in its extremes because they aren't bright enough to see beyond their own extremism. too childishly impatient to wait for societies to evolve, they demand revolution on every front and know only to back up their demands with violence and hatred.
     
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    And just wait until they lose federal funding. :grin:
     

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