Terrorism In Europe - Less is more? Really?

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by see you next tuesday, Mar 29, 2017.

  1. see you next tuesday

    see you next tuesday Active Member

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    There are lots of people on here doing exactly what the terrorists want such as panicking and sounding really frightened about "what might happen".

    Its understandable that the younger generation are easily frightened by terrorism because its quite a new thing to them - For lots of people, terrorism really did seem to first begin on 9/11.

    For older people like me, terrorism is less frightening because we've lived through it before and there was more of it when i was younger than there is now.

    Oddly, this "battle hardened" view point of terrorism seems to worry those who are easily frightened but i guess that's the generation gap.

    Rather than listing dozens of URL's that report on the terrorism we lived through in the 70's & 80's, i thought this singe URL painted the over all picture rather well.

    http://www.datagraver.com/case/people-killed-by-terrorism-per-year-in-western-europe-1970-2015

    I think we could create a new graph called "how much easier to frighten we've become" and it would show that during a period of less terrorism, we've become more frightened of terrorists.

    Being frightened of terrorism is EXACTLY what the terrorists want, my advice to the younger generation is to man the f##k up.
     
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  2. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    You don't see a difference between your previous spat between people in your own geographical location as opposed to actively importing people that are killing you and blowing stuff up?

    Get in a fight with your neighbor sure, but they are bring yo neighbors from half a world away who are hell bent on starting a fight with you.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Furthermore, it's highly uncertain to get europe as a whole for that kind of statistics. 100 people killed in the center of paris, it never happened before.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a good point. It is far easier to dehumanise people who are perceived as 'the other' particularly when they look different so are more easily identifiable.

    about fear - I can remember both being afraid to go on the Tube when the IRA said they were going to bomb it and being extremely wary of any Muslim looking person I saw wearing a back pack for a while after 7/7. This was pretty common. Muslims felt the same way.

    The big difference is how we respond to things. We knew for instance that if we acted towards every Irish person as if they were a terrorist, if we kept insulting every Irish person, then we would see a whole lot more terrorism. As they were not only our neighbours but the relatives of many people on the mainland we also made absolutely sure not to treat them as sub humans. In addition to that since WW2 there had been a gradual change in how people approached difficulties. Rather than only having one dimensional thought - good and evil, we had integrated work in psychology and sociology. We knew that people did things for a reason and that part of resolving the situation was being aware of what that reason was. That all ended with 9/11. I can remember the first time I heard Blair talking about these 'Evil' people.

    and so of course we went about destroying their world and now are somewhat surprised that they, being unable to compete with us militarily have taken to a few terrorist attacks in the West. If you live in Iraq or Syria or Yemen that is all you know. That is what we gave them for 9/11, We took it out on all the Muslim people. We do exactly the same with the odd person, usually with a criminal/psychiatric problem, does some small act here. We blame them all for it. We do not bother about the millions of people who have lost their homes, the hundreds of thousands/millions already dead, those suffering famine. We do not think of them. We decided after 9/11 that they were a sub human people, blaming all of them for 9/11 and becoming again involved in religious supremacy - Christianity and Jews against Muslims. That is when the transatlantic anti muslim extremist hate groups got started which of course was the inspiration for Brevik's killing of mainly the young in Norway.

    We have become psychologically sick in much the same way as we were in the 30's and lost most of the psychological growth we had achieved. We have our 'other' to blame and can ignore our own actions.
     
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    Your psycho apology babble doesn't mean crap because this is something that could easily be prevented but you make up excuses to facilitate their attacks, you are the accomplice..

    It's your fault, you know damn well what will happen and you get people killed, and try blaming it on the people being killed..

    Your line of thinking is what is psychologically sick..
     
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  6. alexa

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    Typical of the Muslim haters. Ignore all the other evidence and just spew more hate. As I said one dimensional world they live in.
     
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    The dimension of reality, where the realistic evidence of what's actually happening is..
    No need for fairy tale dimensions...
     
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    Well it might not of happened in exactly the same way, but have you forgotten the FLN bombing campaign and the reprisals when at least 40 bodies were dumped in the Seine?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_massacre_of_1961

    But as the OP said, we were tougher and less easily scarred then.
     
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    If the people in lands far away had fighter jets or airborne armies then I would have every reason to be concerned...but they don't.
    We can bomb them from the air from 100's of miles away and even stick go-pro video cameras on the bombs.

    They drive cars into us with knives in their hands - While its still a bad thing, its not exactly an even fight is it.
     
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    Lordy! You sound really frightened of the Muslims mate! Don't you think its a bit odd to be frightened of 1/5th of the human population of earth?
    Is it all Muslims you don't like or only specific sections of them?
     
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    - This gentleman, even though he is australian, does speak rather well about the recent London terror attacks and helps to add some perspective to the events.
     
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    Yes and they weren't 24H/24h of newsmedias about it. I didn't forgotten about the FLN, they were too the OAS. However, my parents were really young when it happened, fewer and fewer; they were used to an europe without war, slaughters, so yes, when you are born in peace and some people act as barbarian, it's schocking.
     
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    The IRA wanted an independent Ireland.

    Muslims want us all burying our noses in the floor over a non-existent ghost a notorious child rapist told us all about.

    Yeah, real close.
     
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    Really? 1/5th of the human population of earth want us to do this?

    So no matter where in the world a Muslim is from and no matter what the culture or traditions of their nationality they have..."muslims" worldwide want the same thing?

    Do you think a British, american and Australian christian want the same thing or would you agree that being from entirely different countries might give them a different opinion?

    I do love a good sweeping generalisation but, from experience, they should only really be used for jokes rather than serious opinions.
     
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    No, I don't think those Christians want the same thing. I also think our swarthy brothers should stick to the desert that spawned them - just for clarity, and in the event it wasn't already fairly apparent.

    Then you could be even less frightened. Though I know that's not a problem for a man of your infinite courage.
     
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    It's about the fact that morons invite them right in with open arms and free stuff so they can run you over and knife you..

    I'm not frightened at all..
    Actually a lot of the time I wish I wasn't so far away from the action..
     
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    So what do you intend on doing with those who are already here?
     
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    Encourage people to not vote for loony lefty, desert- loving parties.
     
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    The day i stand more chance of being killed by a terrorist that i do crossing he road, is the day i start worrying about terrorism.
     
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    I use "the F word" becuase its how other people come across when they talk about terrorists.

    We are becoming easier and easier to frighten as a population and i find the reasons for this quite interesting.
     
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    Why not join the armed services them?
     
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    OK once you have encouraged people not to vote for loony left, desert-loving parties which must be the Tories, Labour and the Liberal party, what parties would you put in there place and what would these parties do to the Muslims already here?
     
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    If your point is "well ya boo sucks, we're here, we're staying and there's nothing you can do about it", well I disagree. The loony Westminster elite is not representative of the UK.
     
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    Please tell me you didn't report that comment and get it deleted. Can't a man of your courage take a dig? Sarcasm for sarcasm?

    Seems a bit...frightened if you ask me.
     
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    No, I am not you and do not think like you.

    You said
    to which I responded
    and you responded with
    and my latest was a response to that.

    Hence as you appear to have confirmed you believe that the Tories, Labour and the Liberals are loony-lefty, desert-loving parties, the question remains


    Which you still have not answered.
     
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