Breaking : Numerous people shot outside UK Parliament .....

Ok if you just want to get into a posting links war rather than prove you are not acting like a panic monkey and eroding my freedoms from the other side of the Atlantic here is an article from after the Westminster attack from a Conservative newspaper.....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/24/uks-terror-threat-level-likely-attack/

So although there has only been one serious attack since the threat level was started 11 years ago and the organisation which releases it is the one responsible for surveillance on the British people and relies on a heightened state of fear for it's budget increases you want us to restrict entry to refugees? Even though those refugees have never been responsible for an attack.
Let me ask you, if it was still the IRA who were far more deadly who were the main threat would you argue to refuse entry to all Catholics?

Or is it just some strawman position that I don't know a threat exists?

 

A "war" of ideas. An ideological "war". A "war" of words. We. Can. Win.

 

Yes, we need a strong military (I'll admit) - but bombing them will only, long-term, make the situation worse. You can't defeat terrorism w/out first defeating the ideology.

 

He is know to perhaps the be the single most radical towards his country and his posts are always showing so. A peace sign behind Iran's flag, yeah, all you need to see really

 

There are dozens of examples in history where this is lubriciously false. See Germany, Marshal Plan, Japan, and no Iraq after we left too early.

This was a mix of idiots, Bush for getting us started. Obama for changing tactis in the middle and taking home too soon, now we the massive problem

 

Short term, yes, military is good, but long-term you can't defeat terrorism (the Nazis were more a conventional military, not Jihadist terrorists, as such) with bombs - you only make them hate you more, so more of them turn against you. See, we are in the longest war in US history, with no end in sight, for a REASON. The reason that I just stated.

 

Of course ... but as far as humans with their personal opinions in all things create, write and live religions on this plant, any of the religions can be abused by extremists who change and interpret a religion until it fits for his goals.

 

And Jesus went into Paradise by magic travelling after his death and came back as ghost from scary movies 1...
Show me any religion which is not full of such fairy tales please!

 

No ... Islamists are fooling us, which are part of the 2 billion Muslims on this planet. And this islamist are those who change things and interpret things to back their sick believing!

 

Yes, we agree again. Yes, Modern Secular Humanism is better than any religion.

 

"Panic monkey"?? Was that woman who leapt from the bridge to avoid being struck by the Islamic terrorist a panic monkey?

That wuld seem wise given that a percentage of Muslims are either terrorists or sympathize with them.

Why not do some res arch on the number of Muslims from other countries who sympathize with terrorism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_attitudes_toward_terrorism

Islamic terrorism is international while the IRA was local. It was not a religious war.

 

Britain is a lot like the US, they also endure political correctness, what Britons feel and what they can say about Muslims are two different things.

 

What a load of crap! There are loads of US & Britons saying openly what they feel about Muslims - have you been living in a cave?

 

That woman was knocked into the Thames she did not jump, but yes she was one of a very small handful of people in the last decade who genuinely had something to panic about.

So Islamic terrorism which indiscriminately target members of all faiths including their own are fighting a religious war but the IRA who specifically targeted protestants weren't?
If you take the blinkers off for just a moment you will see that both groups kill to try to achieve political aims and religion is just the recruiting sergeant and not the cause.

 

This video is from fully 7 years ago. Look what this fairly normal looking Muslim girl has to say about what she wants done with the Jews:




Looks like my US buddies have their hands full, when this kind of ****'s being bred in the university system.

 

I've been to the UK, have friends and relatives there, we share thoughts and discuss politics. Generally they share dissatisfaction with some policies, concern over immigration and grief this cannot be openly debated for fear of breaching political correctness.

 

Every Thursday there is a very popular TV program called "Question Time" which regularly debates immigration and has a panel consisting of the whole of the political spectrum plus an audience who can say whatever they want. Just last week on a radio show there were people defending IRA attacks over a debate about McGuiness who had just died. Political correctness is not a law.

 

Americans confuse our ''hate speech'' laws with a loss of free speech. They think criticism will get you arrested.

 

Not at all; as a skeptic on global warming I'm branded a shill for big oil, when I question gender-neutral bathrooms I'm called homophobic, my criticism of immigration policy has me labeled xenophobic, distress over the rejection of conservative speakers in academia has me denounced as a hate monger, liberals don't tolerate any divergence with their doctrine, there's no debate allowed, you see it right here when I note British concern over political correctness I'm dumb ("confused").

 

No, you said

That is BS and these issues are openly discussed all the time both in the media and between the people on the street. If you think we can't then you are confused.

 

Defending terrorists is part and parcel of political correctness. Question Time is a left wing, basically London centric echo chamber of Guardianistas, moderated by an aging arch champaign socialist. It is the quintessence of political correctness.

 

Only on anonymous internet forums. In real life you will hear barely a word breathed in public about Muslims. In private people say what they'll only anonymously post on the internet.

 

Yes, you are obviously correct. Let's see if it changes with the various political earthquakes both past and in the offing.

 

Nonsense, question time moves all round the country and has a balanced panel and audience. They discuss immigration nearly every week and everyone gets their say. You are just outright lying now.
NOBODY defends terrorism on it.

 

That's not true either, I hear talk about Muslims everywhere I go and it is rarely nice things that are being said.