Things White Nationalist Don't Know About Crime in Communities

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  1. Tiz

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    If you suffer from failure of the imagination, you might decide something so easy is impossible. But it most certainly is not.
     
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    You’ve posted a thread in which you’ve insulted nearly everyone who has responded to you. In telling everyone else how to live, what to believe, how to behave, and what “they” are guilty of, you’ve managed only to alienate a lot of people. While trying to set yourself up as the world’s foremost authority on morality and all things black, what you’ve done, instead, is to come off as a weak-kneed, loud-mouthed, self-loathing, white apologist and drama queen.

    It’s obvious you are well educated, and you were probably raised in a middle class, safe, home where you had to worry about nothing. Then you attended good, safe, schools with other white kids with no worries. You now sound like the prototypical white egghead who has loads of book learning and very few, if any, real life experiences. I base all of this on your many, many, posts, all filled to the brim with pompous words and insults. You THINK you are much more important than you are. And while you think your words matter, you are probably alone in that belief.

    One thing I would bet on, is that you have NEVER known a black person. In short, I don’t think you know what the hell you’re talking about. I mean, you probably have known, in a highly superficial way, a couple of negroes. But, surely, no black people. And NEVER, a single n****r. So, again I say, you are full of sh!t.

    Go live, for a few years, in a large urban neighborhood where you are surrounded by blacks. Where your neighbors are black and you have to rub elbows with these folks. Take a few classes in a school that is at least 50 percent black. Go to some black restaurants, nightclubs, and a couple of black after hours joints, from say, three to six in the morning. Listen to the music, meet the drug addicts, the hookers, the pimps, thieves, cons, the dregs of society. Meet them, get to know them, go to their homes, have them to your home. Spend hours and hours with them. And, if you don’t get your stupid, worthless head ripped off and shoved up your rear end, come back, and maybe you’ll have something to say that has a bit of truth and worth to it. Until then, you’re just another white apologist who goes around making up incredible, never-ending excuses for the behavior of black rioters, thieves, arsonists, trouble-makers, and general, all-around scumbags.

    Believe me, black people do not need YOU to come along and act like another whiny-@ssed White Savior of the black race. Blacks are perfectly able to defend themselves, make their own choices, and determine their own way forward. They will not appreciate being treated like brainless children, as you seem to think they have to be treated. So, pack up your arrogance, and get your nose out of the clouds. Try to understand that you know far, far, less than you think you do. You would improve greatly by growing a bit of humility, and, as another poster put it: by buying a freaking clue.

    There are also many successful blacks, and they don't need you as their Great White Spokesman, either.

    For some reason, you are desperately trying to hold onto the past. Accusing white people on this board (and probably everyone in your life) of crimes committed before they were even born (maybe this is to help assuage your overwhelming sense of white guilt and self-hate). But, blacks have to learn to live in the here and now. And, they will NEVER move forward until they learn a couple of the most important and basic lessons of life: every man is responsible for his own choices and his own actions. The life we live is created by those choices. And, as long as we blame others for our problems, we are doing nothing but making more excuses for our own failures.

    Say Goodnight, Gracie.
     
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    I am mirroring the behavior and words of people who suffer from white cultural autism.

    I have lived on the west side of Chicago and in Detroit.

    So your point is?

    I don't like stupidty that produces intolerance and hatred.
     
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    On the Contrary.
    It's obvious he has NO education in Genetics of Race or Biology: the topic he Drools about.
    Unlike his opponents (me included) he cites NO links in support or rebuttal, just claims! What kind of debate is that?
    "well educated" "egghead"?
    If YOU think he's an "egghead", you have monumentally low expectations/or are similarly 'challenged.' He's all trash talk.

    He makes the most Noxious ILLogical replies imaginable.
    He 'short-quotes' his opponents (especially the most poignant parts or citations) because he CANNOT answer what was posted.
    He dishonestly abridges those quotes to one sentence, and can't even handle that single sentence.
    He can't write a logical paragraph in response to anything. He doesn't have the knowledge. Only compulsion.
    He makes 60 posts a day usually over 20 hours of the day. Only 4 hours separate night from day sometimes.
    It's OCD.
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    The mail person doesn't at all know everyone in the city lolol that is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. You have gone off the deep end. Lolol
     
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    Based on his posting history, he is so anti authorative and anti white, I think he simply realized he had lost the debate, and the officer was justified in the shooting and desperately sought out an argument to cling to. And he clung to "they could know who he was based on community policing", but didn't really think it through before posting. Lolol
     
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    Very well said. That is a very accurate description of him. It's a shame the most ignorant are usually the most vocal. Oh well.
     
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    Police don't police the entire city. They police certain precincts or wards, or whatever. And the same is true for mail delivery. I have always known who delivers my mail. And I have moved a lot. I usually end knowing the weekend and substitute delivery people are too.

    That is what people do in safe and vibrant communities.
     
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    In those districts there are still 10s of thousands, or more. To expect them to know everyone is still completely unreasonable. This is fact lolol. Mailman do not know everyone.

    And if you don't think officers aren't regularly pulled from thier beats, you are misinformed. Not surprised lol.
     
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    These were officers on a stake out. It should be their beat. Or at least 2 of the 3.

    Charlotte has 27 police per 10,000. NYC has 60/10,000.

    I'm not naive, knowing ever person who moved across town to live with his girlfriend is not reasonable and not that important. But knowing where the people who have been incarcerated before and have traumatic brain injury seems like something that needs to be emphasized.

    Would it cost a lot more money to secure all of Americas neighborhoods?

    Yes. But much, much, much less than was spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. And it would be money that literally made America safer. And it would literally make America safe for communities that haven't been served and protected for 400 years. And unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, the money would likely be well spent. Because going from dangerous to safe neighborhoods makes those local economies boom.

    A trillion dollars would go a long way, don't you think?
     
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    To expect them to know every person in thier beats, full of 10s of thousands of people is absolutely and objectively unreasonable. Even if they have been there all thier lives. To even expect anything close to that is unreasonable. To know this exact person was and what ailments he does or doesn't have is absolutely unreasonable. You are going off the deep end and fast lolol. What is reasonable, was this guy putting down the gun when lawfully ordered to, as is exactly what happened, to which he refused. His death is on him.

    Officers get pulled from thier beats regularly to assist with call load. So it's very possible it wasn't thier beat, which really doesn't matter as to expect them to know him is still unreasonable even if it were thier beats. But I just enjoy showing your ignorance.

    As far as money to secure and protect us better? I agree, I'd dump as much money as we could into it. That's about the only sane thing you have said in your past several responses to me lolol.
     
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    apparently you don't know the legion of things that traumatic brian injury might entail.

    To pretend he could process the command and act on it without knowing anything about his deficits is ridiculous and obnoxious.

    That would be like saying a man who had a stroke and has left his left upper extremity paralyzed, deserves to be gunned down by police if he has a gun and chooses to not put his hands over his head as ordered by police.

    See how stupid that sounds?

    Hire more police and pay them more so you can get the one who remember a lot of people.

    I am glad. Because what was insulting was after spending 2 or 3 trillion dollars, Baghdad was safer than Detroit. And that is not something that is sanely blamed on Democrats in Detroit. The responsibility falls squarely on all Americans who hired representatives who care far more about securing national interest (i.e., rich people's interests) half a world away, rather than spend a fraction of that money to secure American cities.
     
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    He was not so mentally impaired that he did not know what he was doing and what was gonna be the result. He understands English. It was reasonable to demand he put down the weapon, and to expect him to do so. He didn't, and therefore his death is on him.

    Furthermore even in the hypothetical scenario if he was so extremely brain dead he could not understand these commands, the police could not possibly know that and his shooting would have been unfortunate, but justified. And if he were that brain dead, he shouldn't have a gun in the first place.

    There is not a single human being who can know every person in thier community. There are 10s and hundreds of thousands of people. No human can hold that much information. You are objectively wrong and extremely unreasonable.

    Again, more money is certainly a good thing. More money equals more officers equals more protection. I agree.
     
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    Brains don't quite work that way. There are some freaky things that can happen with brain damage that are extremely difficult to fathom. Hemineglect, for example, is so biazarre it seems almost impossible to imagine it isn't a con.

    You don't know that. That may be correct, and it might not be correct.

    Disabled people have rights too.

    I actually completely agree, because nobody has a right to own a gun. The second amendment is anachronistic garbage that needs to be removed from the constitution.

    Apparently, you agree.

    They could be proactive about ways of identifying at risk people like people with TBI or other disabilities or conditions (i.e., autism).

    Common ground. Yippee.
     
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    Anything could have happened, but based off of what we know, which is what we should be basing our opinions on, then he did not put down the gun, which means the shooting is justified.

    And from what we know about his mental conditions like, he understood the officers and refused.

    Proactive is good, but to expect the officers to know everyone and thier ailments is not reasonable.

    Yes, common ground. Worth celebrating I suppose, but until you acknowledge your inherent bias against officers and how unreasonable it has made you I struggle to see that small victory of us finding common ground to be significant.
     
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    Let me be clear, because I think I gave the wrong impression. I don't think these police were criminals. I do think they were negligent. But I don't think they deserve to go to jail. But I wouldn't feel sorry if they had to face a jury in a trial about whether they were grossly negligent.

    My feeling is that if this is the standard, then the standards are intolerably low. And when they are too low, blacks suffer more for a whole host of reasons.
     
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    Yeah, I got two.

    What does this have to do with White Nationalism?

    What does this have to do with the conditions of black neighborhoods today?
     
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    White Nationalism is an ideology of idiocy by idiots. Truth is that such a phenomenon can only exist in a cultureless place like America - Since Americans are one gigantic mishmash of Caucasoid Europeans their only shared component is "whiteness" and thus they advocate for whites to unite. Absolutely ridiculous.

    Furthermore, the term "white nationalism" is a huge contradiction as it actually is not a form of "nationalism", but rather that of "internationalism". Europeans have always hated each other and even within the countries there is hostility between the regions and here they sit, thinking that Lithuanians and Brits will unite under some sense of "whiteness" - how embarassingly infantile isn't that?

    White Nationalism is nothing more than Marxistoid retardedness.
     
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    By that definition, Asians are the ones oppressing the rest of us. Asians in the US suffered every indignity blacks did and yet today do better than white people do, while blacks and hispanics still languish. Can't exactly put that down to systemic racism, can you? If there's a more hated group in the US than blacks, it's Jews, but they do far better than whites do on every measure. Can't put that down to systemic racism, can you?

    You're not seriously arguing that the Jews were responsible for Kristallnacht, are you? https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005201
    Those 30,000 Jews were shipped off to concentration camps where most of them died, for the crime of being Jewish.
     
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    Cultureless place like America, eh? I guess you don't watch American movies, listen to American music, or have anything to do with any form of American art. Since, you know, there's no culture here.

    If the systematic racism in the West is anti-white (which it is) then why doesn't it make sense for Whites to unite? We all have something in common in that we have this disadvantage to overcome.

    White Nationalism is the idea that the white race should be preserved, and in order to do that, we need to have white countries. Which is something that, at the moment, the Jewish establishment isn't allowing.

    I do agree that the white race is very diverse with many different ethnicities, each with their own culture. I tend not to call myself a White Nationalist because I'm not just in favor of white preservation, I'm also in favor of the preservation of all races and ethnic cultures, with the exception of Jewish culture, which desparatly needs to change.
    However, when only the white ethnicities are being targeted, I can understand people using the term "White Nationalism"
     
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    Contemporary popular culture is absolute trash. Anyways, I was not really referring to pop culture in my post, but rather to culture in a broader, anthropological sense

    Whites have f-ck all in common! You cannot unite people based on haplogroup that is not only proposterous, but also is it absolutely and completely delusional. Slovenians are Slovenians, Swedes are Swedes; there is not much these two have in common apart from race. For the love of God, not even Swedes and Norwegians can unite and we are basically, exactly the same people. Yet you, somehow, believe everyone, from Greeks to Icelandics will hold hands and sing 'Kumbaya'? Give me a friggen break, won't you?

    Marxist bogus.

    Ah yes, Joo Boogeyman. He's everywhere, is he not? :laughing:
     
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    Contemporary popular culture is mostly trash in pretty much every country.
    If by culture in a "broader, anthropological sense," you mean politics and society, same as pop culture in every other country.

    If Slovenians, Swedes, Norwegians, Greeks, and Icelanders are all facing similar problems in the Western world, why shouldn't they unite and fight for the future of the West? I'm not saying they should all move into a commune together. I'm just saying they should work together against a common problem, the same way many countries have done in war throughout history. Look at all of the times European groups with little in common worked together to keep outsiders from invading Europe.
    Further more, all of those peoples you mentioned are ethnicities of Western Civilization. So they do have more in common than just race.

    How is it Marxist to have allies? Marxism would be saying all of Europe should be one country.

    Well, if you don't think the Jews are causing this, maybe you can answer my question here.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/white-ethnomasochism.499959/
     
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    America is a young nation built by a gigantic mishmash of European migrants. In an American context there is, thus, much sense in equating nationalism with whiteness. However, in an European context, it does not make any sense whatsoever. In America, Scots, Irish, Swedes, Germans and Norwegians can build their nationslism on whiteness. In Europe that does not work.

    No, we were only interested in defending our own countries. That was our primary and only reason of going to war; our nation and our people. Not our continent, our race. Also, in many of those wars, we fought each other. My great-grandfather participated in the 'Finnish Winter War' to defend Finland and the Finns. Bare in mind that this was whites fighting other whites; where was your white unity here?

    Like what? Perhaps one could draw it one step further and say "Christianity", but not even then does it make sense as some are Protestants, some are Catholics and others are Orthodox. Today many countries are even secular with broadly atheist populations.

    All Scandinavians hate each other, every Eastern European despises Russia and most of them even despise their neighbours. Irishmen, Scots and Welsh hate the English and so on. Ethnically, linguistically and culturally we are all very different.

    You actually believe that the Latvian farmer feels he has something in common with the snorty and pompous Parisian in France? You think they feel "sameness"? Lmfao.

    White Nationalism is very Marxist; it views the world in terms of "oppressed vs oppressors", it is internationalistic ("white comrades unite!") and it is heavily materialistic.

    Bro, you need to stop chasing the boogeyman. Those articles by Anglin and books by McDonald and Duke are of no use, burn them all!
     
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    The increase in the national crime rates can be explained by falling wages and rising unemployment among men without college educations. Among less educated men, lower wages and higher unemployment rates made it more likely that they had participated in crimes. The 20 percent fall in the wages of non-college-educated men can account for a 10.8 percent increase in property crime and a 21.6 percent increase in violent crime.

    “Crime Rates and Local Labor Market Opportunities in the United States: 1979- 1997,” with Eric D. Gould and David B. Mustard. Review of Economics and Statistics 84 (no. 1, February 2002): 45-61.

    http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/003465302317331919
     
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    Correlation does not equal causation. During the Great Depression, wages fell by a third, a quarter of the adult male population was unemployed, and yet crime rates fell from their peak in the bootlegging 1920s. And as it happens, crime rates have been falling since the 1990s even though wages and employment have been flat, so that's both out of date and inaccurate.
     

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