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  1. Interaktive

    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    Sweden is one of the most peace-loving countries, Healthy, Smart, Happy, Rich, Educated, Law-abiding.
    How did they do it?
     
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    Nice Joke post
     
  3. Interaktive

    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    I can
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sweden is the new Mecca. I can't wait til they have to outlaw women in shorts and bikinis.
     
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  5. Interaktive

    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    I want Christianity to die out and Europeans become atheists.
     
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    Well Christianity is certainly dying out in Europe, so you'll get half of your wish.
     
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    I wish that the whole world would become atheists.
    Enough people have died because some refuse to give up an imaginary friend.
     
  8. Nationalist Protagonist

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    As much as I'd hate to see Sweden end up a Sharia country, that might have to happen in order for the rest of Europe to wake up.
     
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    Sweden is all the things in the OP because they don't display these levels of ignorance.
     
  10. Nationalist Protagonist

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    Sweden has mass immigration from the Muslim world, Swedish birthrates have been falling for a long time, and Muslims in Sweden have a very high birthrate.
    If these three trends continue, the majority of people in Sweden will be Muslim. Explain to me how that prediction is ignorant.
     
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    Good question but I doubt you'll get a reply!!
     
  12. Montegriffo

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    Well you won't know this because they don't talk about it in Breitbart but Sweden like many other European countries has slowed down it's rates of immigration and is deporting large numbers of refugees who fail the asylum tests. Also like all Scandinavian countries they are very tolerant and have secular government so bikini bans will never happen.
    I know many Americans have little understanding of what goes on in Europe but like to push their anti-Muslim bogeymen narratives since 9/11.
    What you should really worry about is the old enemy Russia which is still pointing all those nukes in your direction. Your Western cultural supremacy meme is blinding you to these facts though so you insist on trying to tell us Europeans that our continent is being overrun by the Muslim hordes.
    Meanwhile the topic of this thread has been hijacked by your need to push your inaccurate message.
     
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    I doubt I will get a reasonable and civil discussion but hey.....you have to try sometimes.
     
  14. Nationalist Protagonist

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    Okay, I don't want to spend too much time on this, because I know it's besides the main point, but your first sentence here is a huge problem.
    One of the worst things about modern Western politics is everyone simply must be either far-right or far-left. There is no room for logically examining each issue anymore, instead we all just pick a side, blindly worship it, and condemn anyone who sounds like the other side without actually listening to them.
    I don't read Breitbart because I know it's fake news. But you heard me say one right of center thing, and you automatically assumed I'm right-wing. And it's not just the left that does this. I've also been called a snowflake for saying we should have stricter gun control.
    For the good of the entire Western world, please try to be more open-minded when confronted with people you disagree with. We don't all blindly accept everything we see on either MSNBC or Fox News.

    I haven't seen any reliable news sources say Sweden slowed down its immigration intake. If you have some, post them here.
    Even if this is true, Sweden is still in a demographic crisis due to the birthrate situation. What the Swedes should be doing is closing the borders altogether, and taking steps to reduce the amount of Muslims living there now. And the same goes for most Northern and Western countries in Europe.

    You know what else all of the Scandinavian countries have in common? They are bending over backwards to be good hosts to the growing Muslim population. When 40% of Sweden is Muslim, and those Muslims want a bikini ban, it very well could happen. Think it can't? Okay, then what about when Muslims are the majority in Sweden? Demographics is destiny. If the majority of Sweden believes in secular government, then that's what Sweden will have. If the majority believes in Sharia Law, then that's what Sweden will have.

    To tell you the truth, 9/11 didn't give me anti-Muslim sentiment. I saw it as an act of a few terrorists taking advantage of Muslim anger over the war crimes America and Israel have been carrying out in the Middle East for decades.
    It wasn't until a few years ago that I realized between the mass immigration and the birthrate situation that Europe was on its way to becoming Muslim. And the "refugee" crisis only made the problem more noticeable.

    I'm more worried about our idiot politicians goading Russia into war. Luckily, Hillary lost the election, thus ending her dreams of WWIII. Now the media is doing everything it can to convince us that Trump is an undercover Russian spy sent to destroy Moose and Squirrel.

    I don't believe in cultural supremacy. Western culture is right for me, but if other people prefer different cultures, who am I to tell them they're wrong? I'm just looking at the situation objectively. If the three trends I mentioned earlier continue, then the Nordic countries, the German Sprachraum, the UK, France, and the Low Countries will all be Muslim eventually. We can debate whether this is good or bad, but it is happening.

    I'm pretty sure OP was trolling, anyway.
     
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    Google is your friend pick a source https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=S...t=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=O-3gWMPXA4XEaMmqgsAB

    However here's a conservative newspaper for you
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...e-scale-immigration-crime-sweden-five-charts/

     
  16. Nationalist Protagonist

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    I've come across this before, and I have a very hard time believing it's accurate. Based on all of the Swedes I've spoken to, crime has gone up, especially sexual crime, and the No-Go Zones are expanding. And this newspaper being conservative doesn't mean it can't be incorrect in favor of the left on this, especially since the Swedish government is infamous for downplaying the role of immigrants in crime, including not reporting rapes.
    But okay, let's say this article is at least right about Sweden slowing down its immigration program. They still have the problem of a growing Muslim population due to high Muslim birthrates and low Swedish birthrates. They're still assimilating to the immigrants, rather than the other way around.
     
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    the Pride of Sweden:


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    Maybe because Sweden is a tiny nation (population of New York City), with an extremely homogeneous population (until they opened the floodgates to "refugees").
     
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    Scandinavia is Shangri-La as the land of social democracy and of all good things. The Nordic model is the only example that socialism actually worked with a combination of free market capitalism with a comprehensive welfare state. By reducing poverty rates by 19% on average, social problems associated with poverty also disappeared in Scandinavia. Refugees are more likely to commit crimes than Scandinavians probably because they are excluded from the welfare state and living in grinding poverty (i.e., no government hand-out).

     
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    Even I am Protestant Christian I liked thus thing.
     
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    A really strong sense of national identity. Socialism works really well when the "haves" that are transferring to the "have nots" feel a sense of kinship and solidarity. Its like giving to family. The recipricol is that crime becomes both less necessary and less vengeful.
    If immigrants can be assimilated into the national identity then it will be plain sailing for sweden in the future.
     
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    Social Democrat and Communism was dislike by the Hitler.
     
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    Because Protestants are developed. I communicate with the Russian Orthodox, here they are stupid and uneducated. I am from Ukraine and am glad to talk with Western people.
     
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    Western people are Ok for my interest too.
     
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    Except for the level of ignorance they are showing with mass immigration.
     

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