Okay Theists....Prove GOD exists.

KJB-
1 Corinthians 1:20-31
20Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 29That no flesh should glory in his presence. 30But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 31That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

 

The outside force that started everything cannot be an alien because "something" had to create the alien.
The outside force that started everything cannot be matrix because "something" had to create the matrix.

So, let's use your words, if you care to give them.

If none of the arguments you mentioned point to only an "eternal god", what do they point to? What is the outside force that started everything?

 

I have no idea what your judgement, if any, will be. That isn't the question.

The question is why you choose to ignore Tim5. Remember, you are the one who brought Tim5 into the conversation. The passage must have been important to you.

 

Is that fun for ya?

Do you even believe in God? Do you even believe in Jesus? If not...............why would that be fun? Are you perfectly sinless from hypocrisy, I know I'm not? It seems like going around doing your "fun" would be none other than hypocrisy.

 

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OK. Now I understand. You conveniently justify your comments by choosing to redefine words to meet your own needs.

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phrase of once

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   immediately.

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simultaneously.​

This is pretty much the same thing as you choosing to misinterpret Tim5 and choosing to ignore salient parts.

 

You do know that most insects eat other insects, correct?
And that many plants need insects more that insects need them?

Regardless...they obviously have a symbiotic relationship which develops from evolving together.

 

You have just given another example of your ignorance of the English language and your inability to understand the written word.

 

Are you claiming you have never misused words to make a point? Or never said the wrong words? Have you ever been told you said something and you swore up and down you never said it, yet multiple are saying you did.

This guy thinks he's perfect, and that there is no way somebody could misspeak, or just use the wrong words to get to a point, even though after correcting what I was trying to say, and it even goes right there with it, you simply act like your in the 5th grade, and you mock and ridicule them (again as if your innocent).

 

That's an opinion!

 

That's about the best we can get from you. Copy and paste pages of the Bible. That keeps you out of trouble.

When you try to interpret passages, you run into problems. Copy and paste is much safer for you. Meaningless, but safer.

 

Yes, everything is needed for it to go on (reproduce, survive), are there some things that could go extinct and not really have a huge effect? I'm sure there is. But there are also things that cannot go extinct, with catastrophic disruptions in all life.

Think of it like an engine, some things can break off, be pulled off, and it all still works. However some things, even little ones, can end the engine.

 

This is obviously a personal explanation, but I fought with a personal problem for many years and felt hopeless. I was agnostic at the time. While discssing the problem with a nun (I was desperate at the time) she suggested I try prayer--no surprise there. I told her I was not a beliver. She said I must be desperate to ask a nun. If I had no other answers, I had nothing to lose by trying. She gave me a rosary and an instruction card. I prayed one rosary. That afternoon, my backpack, with the rosary and instructions stolen. For some reason I kept praying my own prayers. Within two weeks, the issue resolved itself and I began the slow road back to a more normal productve life. I realize the only person convinced by this is me. Good luck to all who seek truth.

 

Yes you are. If denying science and playing dumb is trolling.

 

That is a very good argument, and very well thought out.

 

Seeing people like you tap dance with your picking and choosing? Yeah, that's fun.

Nope.

Nope.

If I ever believed in God and Jesus and the Bible, it would not be fun. As a rational person, I'd have to constantly ask myself why I choose to believe some parts of scripture and ignore other parts. That would really be troubling. It would be troubling for any rational person.

I don't believe in "sin".

The solution is very easy. Stop being a hypocrite.

Pointing out truth is not hypocrisy.

 

I have no problem when being called out, when partaking in wickedness. The tongue makes it very easy to do as well, for it is the most wickedest part of the body, other than the heart. Nobody is perfect, and we all fall short of the glory of God. If your going to use the Bible, you must take this into consideration. Otherwise it is you who is nit-picking what fits your narrative.

2 Timothy 3:16King James Version (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

 

Why would anyone need to intentionally misuse words to make a point? If they intentionally misuse words to make a point, they should realize the point they are trying to make is invalid.

See above.

Sure. But that is not what we are discussing and is therefore irrelevant.

I never claim to be perfect, but I don't intentionally misuse words to make my point. I don't have to.

Even in the 5th grade I knew the difference between "your" and "you're" thanks to a strict teacher.

Originally I was mocking and ridiculing your apparent lack of knowledge of your Holy Scripture. It wasn't until your subsequent posts that I realized that you intentionally misused your words.

 

Your record player on repeat "fossil" is not going to do anything to one who believes in Jesus and God. For it is them who created the Heaven and Earth, and everything therein. Your not going to convince me otherwise, especially with "fossils".

 

If someone doesn't understand the difference between "science" and "a scientist", he has given an example of his ignorance of the English language and of his inability to understand the written word.

 

If you look at the full context of what I said, you should be able to tell, especially after I told you what I meant. That's how close these "misused words" are. If you cannot figure that out, I don't what to tell ya. Your still going on with it, like you struck gold or something. Or like all you do is go around looking for human errors and call them out, again as if you struck gold. And that it never happens to you. Keep it up, you'll get the rep I'm talking about.

 

Which one?

https://godfinder.tumblr.com/post/132405757586/godfinder-archive

 

No it isn't, you have proven yourself to be irrational and deeply biased. This is just mockery.

 

The above passage tells you of the need to correct your thinking. Tim5 says to avoid disputations.

You now show you will not only continue to ignore Tim5, but you will also ignore Tim3:16 to correct your errors.

Maybe god, seeing your forum discussions, put those verses into your mind to give you guidance. Guidance you still ignore.

 

Today's scientists have substituted experiments for mathematics, and they wonder off through equation after equation, eventually building a structure that has no relation to reality".
-Nikola Tesla- The world's greatest "scientist". Over 300 patents worldwide.

Your technological age you live in, is because of Tesla. This man thought Einstein's Theory of Relativity is a joke. As do I. This man is smarter than everybody on this site. He thought of earth as a realm. And because he is against the heliocentric lies you think he's dumb. What does that say about you?

“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” -Nikola Tesla-

Here is a list of his patents/accomplishments. Just scroll down until you see patent number one, then proceed, see how long it takes you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nikola_Tesla_patents