Manhattan Mean Girls Worry People From Free States May Bring Liberty to NYC

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  1. QLB

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    Not my art or culture. Could care less. NY is losing population like a sieve. It's nothing if not over priced, over rated and overdue.
     
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    I don't typically worry about art, culture, and fashion, but I am concerned with my job. It seems that many of New York's jobs are leaving the state for lower tax states. Texas is even building a place to keep it's billions in gold that is currently in New York.

    You keep inviting people to take advantage of you and we'll keep sending them your way from Mexico.
     
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    Like it or not Wall Street is the trading hub of the financial markets in the world's richest country. It goes down, we all go down with it. Your money (the value of which is linked to Wall Street's performance) included, and mine.

    As far as culture, NYC is not just the repository of fine or high culture. It's the arts center of the country. Four-way stretch material is a textile and Manhattan's 7th Avenue has more textiles than you could get to know in a lifetime. And fashion designers are not all Diane Von Furstenberg (Connecticut) or Michael Kors (Long Island) or Ralph Lauren (the Bronx). The people who design the clothes in Walmart and Target are fashion designers. Someone designed every piece of clothing you wear, and if you make it all yourself then you got the pattern or the concept from some fashion designer somewhere. Increasingly not out of the U.S., but their designs are based on the concepts coming from world cities such as London, NY, Milan, etc.

    I get that most of the country doesn't care for NYC, probably because it's, frankly, an overwhelming place that is far from the experience of other parts of the country. It's like not thinking about the power plant that provides electricity to your house, or not caring to hang out in the power plant. You can't live without it, though, not in any way you'd want to live. And it makes no sense, as an American, to feel that way. It's the greatest city in the world and it belongs to you.
     
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    We have more than a few of them here. Most of them are from upstate and have been driven out by taxes and lunacy of NYC. If it wasn't for the theater, I don't see a good reason to go to NYC. I think I might miss the Museum of Natural History. I'm not a ballet fan and the restaurants are really nothing special that you can't find in other places.
     
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    It could easily move out of NYC - there's nothing magical about that location at all.

    Again, NYC is a matter of convenience, not necessity. Design of any kind can be done anywhere.

    It's not the greatest city in the world. That's just your bias at in play. Nothing that comes from New York is unique to New York. Overwhelming? I've been to Tokyo, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Singapore, London, Paris, Berlin, Buenos Aires, Mumbai and New Delhi. There's nothing in NYC that could whelm me, much less overwhelm me.

    You want overwhelming? Come on out and try a solo backpacking trip on the Continental Divide where you're two day's hike from the nearest paved road.
     
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    Overwhelming? It's expensive, dirty and underwhelming. I can live without the fashion, but you sure as can't live without what's is on my property. In a crunch I'll do just fine. You not so much.
     
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    I don't know what's on your property, but I live in the land of pharmaceuticals, vaccines and medical instrumentation. You would have to argue with the CDC if you don't think any of those things are important to humanity. Do it quick, because you're not going to be around as long as you think without drugs and medical instrumentation and you'll need time to move all those scientific facilities. To China.
     
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    Do you think that those are only made in NYC?
     
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    A business does not have the right the deny your
    Not any more.
     
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    None of which has done anything to elaborate on why you believe that the legal carrying of concealed firearms must be restricted as it currently is, in the state of New York, in order to maintain whatever degree of public safety is in place. Nor does it elaborate on how you believe the entire state is one loud noise away from significant numbers of trampling-related deaths.
     
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    Well, that's a silly thing to say. I didn't say anything at all about upstate NY. Upstate is not NYC. The people in the Catskills prefer gun freedom, which makes sense because a) they'd be dead by the time the police got to them, and b) they tend to know most of the people who live near them. The people in the more populated areas prefer to let the police do the policing, which makes sense because they have a dense population with many strangers.
     
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    Are you familiar at all with Gonzalez vs Castle Rock? Have the NYPD ever arrived in time to stop a shooting, robbery or rape?
     
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    I admire the NYPD, but they're not faster than a speeding bullet.
     
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    Where is the evidence to support the claim that those living in more densely populated areas prefer to leave matters of their defense to police officers?

    Beyond such, the above does not even begin to explain the basis for your position about why the legal carrying of concealed firearms in public must be restricted. According to what you have posted previously, the entire population of the city of Manhattan is one loud noise away from panicking like animals, in a way that would lead to numerous deaths related to trampling. Where is the evidence of your claim that such is an accurate assessment? What does it have to do with anything that is being discussed?
     
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    Don't take my word for it. Go to a local PTA meeting and throw it out there. You'll get an honest response and colorful metaphors to bring back to your home state.
     
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    Do you think all of medicine comes from New York? We actually have technology in the rest of the US. I've worked at thousands of data centers, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, government agencies, microchip fabrication facilities, auto factories, aircraft manufacturing facilities, refineries, 911 dispatch centers, and off shore platforms. I've personally worked in 33 states and none of them are New York.
     
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    We won't take your word for it, and that's not evidence.
     
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    I know several ladies on my local PTA board. Many of them carry concealed. The superintendent of my kid's school system is a long time personal friend and former police officer. He also carries. (Just not inside schools where it is illegal, but we have armed police in every school) I have a gun on my hip(legally) every day when I take my kid to school and when I pick him up. Sometimes I stand in the parking lot waiting for my son to come out of baseball practice and talk to the other parents while I am armed.(legally) Nobody has ever seen my gun in the 8 years that I have carried it. People in other states aren't the sheeple you are accustomed to.
     
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    If I lived someplace that dangerous, I'd move.
     
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    The above does not amount to evidence in support of your claim regarding the people of densely populated areas preferring to leave matters pertaining to their defense to police officers. The claim was made by yourself, therefore it is your obligation to substantiate it with evidence.

    According to your own statements, the city of Manhattan is an extremely dangerous location to live in. So dangerous, that apparently the only way to keep the people from murdering each other at the drop of a hat is to restrict the legal carrying of concealed firearms in public. Perhaps you should take your own advice.
     
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    Compare the crime rate in Vermont to NYC. You'd be safer when you move.
     
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    Compare the population density too
     

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