US Navy gets ready to strike North Korea

As a matter of fact I already have volunteered, I joined the US Army, in the Infantry, back in '86.

How about your?

 

and? 86 we don't have war at asia, especially china backyard. would you agree, a war with china and likely involvement of Russia is stupid idea. this is not the same scale as Iraq or Syria war.

 

Hmm, ask the Hawaiians...

 

Agree. They have a lot on manpower but their technological capabilities are far behind us. They can still level Seoul with their artillery but that would be about it. The mess in North Korea should have been sorted out years ago.

 

A preemptive strike on North Korea will not fair well for Donnie except to the extent that it diverts media attention away from the Trump Economic Bubble that is fizzling out.

 

In fact Saddam was finished after 'shock and awe' was completed and then spent nine months on the run. Then international Islamists began fighting the Coalition, and murdering Iraqis. Recall how the Iraqi people were threatened if they tried to vote, had to be protected by the Coalition forces when they voted, and how they later celebrated?

Not so. The war was actually won. Remember this?

And this?

Trump knows about winning and has the right people around him to assure it happens. Lessons should have been from the Japanese and Germans that you cannot give up until victory is complete. War is not a job for a Community Organizer and he was surrounded by sycophants. Blame Baraack Obama for the Middle East mess, the death and destruction we've see there since 2011. Europe could have done more also and they are now paying the price.

The people are lucky to have him.

 

North Koreans don't have free access to computers.

 

its non-starter for S.korea, as they would get all the damage, after that their economy would be in tumble, so does ASIA, then world. Consider both S.korea/China are neighbor of N.korea, both will severally affected with millions refugee, when these 2 economy slow down it will affect others as well, especially japan and SE asia. If all 3 country and SE asia affected, then the world too. Seoul would be gone, thouands S.korean would be dead. its far more consequential than Iraq war, which is why we haven't consider strike N.korea yet, but we strike Iraq with less than that.

 

You seem to overrate the strength and importance of North Korea. I'd eliminate Kim Jong-un, his staff, and advisors, just on humanitarian grounds alone - but with a follow up plan well in place.

 

would-be president trump is a freaking joke. The entire world knows it. trump supporters, and republicans, in general, really have to get a grip and quit trying to rewrite history. Here's an image to give you a clue to how bad things were as of 2013. They're much worse today.

And whether you like it or not, and whether you believe it or not. ALL of this would have been avoided if the gigantic idiot George W Bush had had a working brain and NEVER attacked Iraq and Afghanistan. There was NO reason to go there, NONE. Every bit of blame goes back to the LIAR GW Bush. He is responsible for the trillions of dollars of taxpayer money WASTED and thousands of American soldiers dead, with more maimed. Not to mention the millions of innocent people who have been murdered as part of this incredible mess. And all responsibility for the lost money and lives and blood spilled falls on the shoulders of GW Bush and all the republicans who supported this incredible idiot and liar.

And now we're stuck with another half-brained idiot in the White House. He moved in just a month ago and already he's causing problems at home and abroad. Listen to the Orange Turd's own words. Believe them. He IS a FOOL. You've been conned, but you don't even know it...yet.

 

No, I think Kim is a lot of bluster and not much more. We know their economy is a mess, they recurringly suffer famines, rural folk live in poverty. North Korea can't afford a million man army, their military is a priority, but I doubt they're well equipped or led and am sure they'd have morale problems. Likely masses would drop their guns and flee first chance they had.

 

Actually, probably no worse than Kim Jong Un.

Incidentally, why has he let himself get so fat? He used to be good looking..

 

Try to post without the hyperbole and perhaps we can have a debate.

 

Looks like another hyperbolic rant from a sufferer from SLS... Sore loser syndrome. No known cure exists yet. But I hear their is a strong anti psychotic in the works. But preliminary testing shows some peculiar side effects. Seems that in 40 percent of the test subjects, uncontrollable leg humping goes on, like a horny male dog. Along with a propensity to fall in love with trump. As you hump a strangers leg. It seems the more you hated trump, the more you loved him, in those that experienced unwanted side effects. A significant number of these got their hair died red, and women had their hair cut to imitate his hair style. Meanwhile testing continues.

 

You're right but as this is the only life they know, and Kim is considered a God-figure, I'm not sure about the morale problems. Their lives may not mean too much anyway. I hope the people don't suffer too much if an attack does occur. Just a thought.

 

Yes, and a terrific golfer too.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/13/kim-jong-un-golf-game-provides-hole-one-every-time/

 

Boy, you have nerve accusing others of engaging in hyperbole. You're obviously an expert at it, as are most other trump sycophants. But, when it comes to most trump supporters, it should be spelled: psycho-phants.

 

We've no idea what people think in "the hermit kingdom", maybe they do think the fat one is a god and that he will prevail, that they can and should set South Korea, Japan and the US all on fire. Few have any idea how things are outside.

I think North Korean rocketry is still of such poor quality they aren't a threat, but they are making progress and eventually could get one of those missiles all the way to the US.

 

You’re right.

I’ve actually been thinking about this for a while. And I’ve mellowed out a bit over the last week, or so. But there are times, when Bush and trump are the topic, that it’s hard to hold back. I feel they’re two of the worst politicians (and, people) who’ve ever held elected office in this country. The worst part is that we voted them into office. I mean, we should have known better. The signs of their incompetence were everywhere, and we should have paid close attention to them, before their elections.

In any case, I appreciate your being honest without getting hostile about it. That’s pretty rare on a political forum.

Maybe we’ll be able to have that debate you mentioned, one of these days.

 

Hope so, Monkrules, and I'd be a liar if I said I didn't respond the same way myself sometimes. I look at it as testing my opinions in a public forum to ensure that they are at least partially justified and supported by some agreed upon facts.. I guess it's often a matter of which facts we decide to choose.in order to support our beliefs. Cheers.

 

China massing troops on DPRK's border (contingency planning).

 

you seem underestimate the situation. the N.korea is fanatic, killing kim will just empower someone below him to take charge and make N.korean more dedicated to the cause.

 

There should be a plan for after Kim. China doesn't want a messy flood of refugees and then a prosperous South Korean reunification. Arrange now with the Chinese for Kim's replacement, a more docile military successor who while retaining an adversarial relationship with the South engages them more in an economic development plan. China has benefited from a more market-oriented economic policy, they should encourage DPRK to do the same. Current focus on just military buildup causes too much suffering.

 

Need to zap that little fat-ass stay-puff into oblivion.

 

"Peaceful resolution" of what? Can the US amicably agree DPRK can threaten neighbors and others with incineration and launch missiles at them? Does Mr. Xi propose the US negotiate lifting sanctions to the degree Kin reduces missile launches?

Whose target is "decentralization on the peninsula"? Chinese official statements are always very carefully worded, the "peninsula" is both Koreas, there is no "centralization" of anything in the whole peninsula, excessive centralization only in the North, South Korea has a decentralized government. I don't think China is concerned with the character of Kim's administration, don't understand this commitment to decentralization. I think for the Chinese "decentralization" means non-reunification.

It makes sense for China to oppose reunification, this would have to follow the inevitable collapse of the Kim regime and China doesn't want a strong, prosperous and successful US ally right on it's border.

Would China cooperate more if the US expressed an equal commitment to "decentralization on the peninsula"? If the US promised to prevent reunification would China stand aside as Kim's regime is brought down?

They got that right.