'WW3 could start' Russia and China may JOIN FORCES against US, North Korea expert warns

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  1. scarlet witch

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    I think 20 - 30 years ago China was happy to have an anti American dictator next door because their own relations with America were strained. Things have changed since then and even more so since Xi Jingping have taken charge.
    I have been encouraged by how well Trump and Jingping's meetings went and also with China's support in reigning Pyongyang in.

    The problem is how Jong Un will respond since he is being driven into a corner, Seoul is very close to the border. So Trump decided to choose, put 50 million South Korean's at risk vs 100 000 Americans that could potentially die on the US west coast, if Jong Un manage to reach America with his long range nuclear ballistic missiles (which is only a few years away).

    China will not side with Russia, they have a different agenda for the future, while America and Russia goes around spending billions bombing other countries, China's economy continues to grow (they upgraded by 0.3% in January) and soon they will be at the top of the world. I also think Putin will settle for Syria and Crimea (in the short term).
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes I was aware of the emerging cheap labour countries like Vietnam (but many of those he mentions in the vid I didn't know of) and China's move away from cheap and nasty to servicing it's own market
     
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    not sure that it works for them
     
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    The U.S. doesn't have any invasion fleets off of NK.

    There's only one Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) in the 7th Fleet AOR that has one MEU, that's one reinforced Marine rifle battalion. (2,200 Marines)

    Even the USS Carl Vinson CSG is being reported by the MSM as being a Carrier Strike Group (CSG) but it's missing a couple of it's escorts.

    The U.S. Navy hasn't put a Carrier Battle Group to sea since G.W. Bush was CnC.

    Remember, President Trump inherited Obama's PC Navy.

    This is a CBG:

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    This is a CSG:
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    The U.S. Navy hasn't put a CBG to sea in over eight years. In fact the Obama administration had problems just keeping two CSG at sea.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think that vid is outdated, they upgraded forecast in January by 0.3%, I think they are being more cautious and honest with their forecasts than in the past. There were times when they inflated their economic forecasts and devalued the Yuan to keep their exports cheap. They have done much in the last 5 years to change this. We are seeing a different China emerge, one that will be worthy of world leadership, I think this is China's vision.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ina-2017-growth-forecast-to-6-5-warns-on-debt
     
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    An MEU is an invasion force. It's purpose is not to decorate the sea.
    It is to deploy a brigade of marines onto enemy soil.
    Nor do I think a couple of missing escorts makes a carrier strike group any less of a threat to NK. How would you strike NK's nuclear facilities?
    Would you mount an invasion... or air strike?
    Cruise missiles is most likely to my mind. NK probably has a kick arse air defence system. (I'm waiting for an enemy to shoot down cruise missiles. Got to happen one day).

    There is one MEU permamently in deployment range of NK and at least once a year, America and allies war game off the shore of Korea to show them what it can do to them. Invasion practise, any one of which might not be a practise at all.

    They need nukes. Iraq has taught them if no nukes, then "next".
    America has been threatening them constantly since the 50's. It's no wonder they are like they are.
     
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    look, the vertical form of government (china is a good example) is simply too extensive and ineffective , a different China will always produce the copes and our low end products. much like sovok did
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    The old Ford's were gorgeous weren't they, the copy almost turned out better :)
     
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    I don't know about China selling cheap copies of our cars.
    Our cars were ****, we sold them the plans and the machine tools. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Now their cars are ****.
     
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    UPD. Checked what 'coolie' is, and not even surprised you made that insult. After all, it's you.
     
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    only visually, inside they are all:
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    I think he was just using the cars as an example, they sell copies of just about everything else... as I'm sure you are aware.
     
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    A MEU is an amphibious unit, back when I served they use to be called Battalion Landing Teams (BLT). I made two combat amphibious assaults in Vietnam with BLT 1/26. In fact the last two amphibious assault conducted during the Vietnam War, Operation Defiance Stand and Operation Bold Pursuit.

    A regimental size Marine amphibious assault are Marine Amphibious Brigades (MAB) formerly known as Regimental Landing Team.

    A Marine Amphibious Force is division size consisting of three rifle regiments, one artillery regiment and all of the combat supporting arms like tanks, etc..

    The U.S. Navy is incapable to putting an entire Marine division on the beach today. You can thank President Clinton for that.
     
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    :roflol: yes they were the lower end of the price scale too

    now this is beautiful

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    Ah, the age before copy rights..! And yes, old cars were absolutely dazzling~ Not surprised our carmakers copied the designs. ^^
     
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    Really? Not another blank cheque from the dethroned emperor of Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Rus' and Samogitia?

    Unless you can dethrone Putin to be the next emperor of Russia and are kind enough to hand back any territories grabbed from other countries like Poland, Ukraine, etc., nobody will ever get back anything from Russia because it has enough nuclear weapons to destroy the earth several times. If it is on the brink of losing a war, it will just tell the victor and the rest of the world before it commits suicide: "Let us (all mankind) die together to see God, Allah or whatever Divine Being!"

    Then will come the Final Big Bang!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...2/US-has-more-than-5000-nuclear-warheads.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...in-building-many-nuclear-weapons-world-could/
     
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    You put it so, as if copying is something bad~
     
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    we both know in Muscovy the thieves are well respected men and the leaders , like medvedev, kadyrov, roldugin, putin etc. in the free world its a crime
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    Incredible Soviet Rip-offs of Western Technologies"
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    http://io9.gizmodo.com/incredible-soviet-rip-offs-of-western-technologies-973280252
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    Online espionage
    The key in terms of the shuttle program was “overt collection” and specifically the use of commercial databases. In effect, the massive effort directed at the U.S. space shuttle program was among the first cases of Internet espionage, if not the first case. With all the critical documents online, it was left to the VPK, under the auspices of the KGB, to gather it all up and then circulate it to those in the space program who needed it.

    The 1985 CIA analysis on “Soviet Acquisition of Militarily Significant Western Technology” described the shuttle project as the best example of the KGB’s exploitation of U.S. government databases:

    “From the mid-1970s through the early 1980s, NASA documents and NASA-funded contractor studies provided the Soviets with their most important source of unclassified material in the aerospace area. Soviet interests in NASA activities focused on virtually all aspects of the space shuttle. Documents acquired dealt with airframe designs (including the computer programs on design analysis), materials, flight computer systems, and propulsion systems. This information allowed Soviet military industries to save years of scientific research and testing time as well as millions of rubles as they developed their own very similar space shuttle vehicle.”"
    and http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18686090/...ence-space/t/how-soviets-stole-space-shuttle/
     
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    Nuh-uh, don't include me into your perverted delusions. I accepted that reality is a very vague thing for you, but that does not mean I welcome having image of myself anywhere inside your head. You can "know" whatever you want - obviously, you know exactly only what you want and with a stubborness of a fantasy dwarf keep refusing any calls from a sence of reason - but I am not going to be included in that.
     
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    As I understood the USA is blame in regime changing only? Regimes are innocent?
     
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    As matter of fact, Putler has no guts to fight against USA. He just want to be Russian Tsar until his death and steal money with his KGB brithers from national treasure.
     
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    +1, much like all thugs around him, all what they want it's $ and save live
     
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    Funny news from fabric of fakes RT.ru 'An alarmed message came from a source from the Pentagon. The military are concerned about the fact that the Russians sent their “killer of aircraft carriers”, the cruiser Varyag, to the shores of South Korea. It was at a time when in that region the situation was aggravated and a shock group of American ships headed by the nuclear aircraft carrier Carl Vinson was arriving there. According to analysts of the Pentagon, the Russians sent a “killer of aircraft carriers” as a demonstration that they are not going to stand aside in case of an aggravation of the situation. Analysts do not exclude the possibility that the Russians will intervene in the situation, if America will follow the Syrian option and want to strike a North Korea missile strike.'
     
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    Он с именем этим ложится
    и с именем этим встает.

    For those, who don't know Russian:
    He goes to bed with this name.
    He gets up with this name too.
    I think it's a love :)
     

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