The Russians decided to check the situation with North Korea and sent a “killer of aircraft carriers

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Destroyer of illusions, Apr 11, 2017.

  1. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2014
    Messages:
    16,104
    Likes Received:
    2,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And what are you proud of? You do not even have your own national language. The Russians have Russian language, English with English language, French with French language. Germans, Spaniards, Italians, Chinese, Japanese all have their own national language. Even the Papuans speak their own language. You have no such language. You are culturally worse than the Papuans.
     
  2. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2014
    Messages:
    16,104
    Likes Received:
    2,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Maybe you mean a Vietnamese company? And the hasty flight of American soldiers? By the way, how many American soldiers died? How many have gone mad? I even know one crazy senator - McCain is his name.
     
  3. goody

    goody Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,469
    Likes Received:
    738
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Americans have been trying to develop right approach to those changing realities you pointed out. Such that the National War College dean and a selected group of students began studying in 2015 the major challenges the DOD have been facing since 2011 and their work has finished as a 132 page report published last month.

    Believe me, they are in shock by how successfully Eurasian powers have been implementing GRAY ZONE strategy that has rendered DOD completely helpless. These are not my thoughts but are the finds of that study group. Conventional US unipolarity is long gone now. All American strategists are strongly emphasizing the urgent need of coming up with a smart enough gray zone implementation to be rebalanced with Russia and China. And considering Eurasia as a play maker in this new warfare which simply makes them ahead in the game no matter what, we can say it takes YEARS for the US to catch up with the methods and everything...
     
  4. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,783
    Likes Received:
    680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So they basicly just fired the missile, wauw.


    Presumed by who? Both sides have equal intrest in lying and hiding whatever their weapons are capable.


    Satellite, gues what would happen to those in a war.

    If those satellites are still there.


    What ship did they sink?

    Do show me 1 piece of modern equipment up to western standards they have.
     
  5. QFTang

    QFTang New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2017
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Gender:
    Male
    Putin is a coward, he has no guts to do so.
    He only can use poison to kill his opponents, and use Chechnya military killer to kill his political opponents. His only purpose is to be president of Russia until his death.
     
    jimmy rivers likes this.
  6. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,783
    Likes Received:
    680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :roflol:

    What makes you think I am a US citizen?

    And in what alternative history book you found that? By the time the south vietnamese regime fell, US had long withdrawn almost all its troops.

    http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/vietnam/vwatl.htm

    You see that 50 at the end?

    Sure try to rewrite some more history. fact remains the US handed some weapons to afghan peasants and they defeated on their own the "mighty" russian bear.

    It got so costly and expensive for the USSR they had to withdraw or they would have collapsed even quicker.


    You are a destroyer of illusion: that you can make a rational argument. :applause:
     
  7. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,783
    Likes Received:
    680
    Trophy Points:
    113
  8. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2017
    Messages:
    3,902
    Likes Received:
    756
    Trophy Points:
    113
  9. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,783
    Likes Received:
    680
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure doesnt change the fact that russian is in decline and seeing russia wont be playing economicly /cultural or diplomatic any part thats not going to change.
     
  10. Baff

    Baff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    9,641
    Likes Received:
    2,003
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They sunk this one. They sunk the other half of it too.
    [​IMG]
    Looks like a western standard hole to me. Torpedo snapped it in two.
    [​IMG]
    Migs!
    [​IMG]
    T90's!
    [​IMG]

    SA 300, very nasty mobile AA.
    [​IMG]
    Oooo... aerial torpedoes. And just lookit fatboy. He's as big as Godzilla. He could squash Putin in a fight.
    [​IMG]
    You may laugh, but my country doesn't make rockets this good. Not many do.
    [​IMG]
    Buk! We know this thing works.
    [​IMG]
    This may look old but wait until you see the gear you are using!
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    I wonder who sold them these?
    [​IMG]




    Turn the volume down for this 90 minutes of ear bashing.

    1:11:49 OMG check out those monster tanks. Igla AA systems. Apache aware.


    Big missiles. v. big.
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2017
  11. Baff

    Baff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    9,641
    Likes Received:
    2,003
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Or... one of them alone nukes every thing. 1 missile for the fleet. Another for any aircraft that weren't there, and then sails on to the next battle group. Nukes them all. Sails on to America. Nukes some cities. That thing is positively ludicrous in it's destructive power.

    The comparison to Yammato is a good one.
    And I have another to offer you.
    We often compare aircraft Carriers with Dreadnoughts. Costly expensive and no longer top predator of the sea. Longr ranged weapon systems have surpassed it. Vanity ships.
     
  12. Thehumankind

    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2013
    Messages:
    4,478
    Likes Received:
    342
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Looks like a promotion from the Russians, well Kim Jong Un could reduce the rations more lower to accommodate such an armament into Nokors arsenal.
     
  13. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When they're under the water. But diesel subs have to surface every so often. When they do that, surface, they can be heard for miles around.
     
  14. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2014
    Messages:
    16,104
    Likes Received:
    2,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Totally agree with you. Now in the world there are several serious players. You talked about the US, Russia and China, but we should not forget such very serious and influential games like Turkey and Iran.
     
    goody likes this.
  15. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2014
    Messages:
    16,104
    Likes Received:
    2,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ahahaha....The Americans are fleeing of Saigon.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    And of course John McCain. In Vietnam, he was less militant.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    2. You asked why I consider you an American ... Because you have a low level of humanities education.

    3. In Afghanistan, all NATO countries supplied weapons for Taliban and Al Qaeda. To fight against the Russians. But the Russians ruled all of Afghanistan. The Russians built factories, dams, schools, hospitals... for Afghans. .... Now in Afghanistan, 36 countries are at war with the Afghans. This coalition does not control anything in Afghanistan, except for its bases. And this is despite the fact that Russia does not supply weapons and instructors for opponents of the international coalition.
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2017
    Baff and vis like this.
  16. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The US won nothing. Vietnam was a disaster, Afghanistan is still causing problems nearly 20 years after the 2001 invasion! Seems America will never learn that poking around in other people's business can never end well, despite having a powerful military. Everywhere touched by America has turned to ****.
    https://williamblum.org/chapters/rogue-state/united-states-bombings-of-other-countries
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2017
  17. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Afghanistan is where empires go to die!
     
    vis likes this.
  18. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Indeed, and history is a great teacher-if one is willing to learn from it.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  19. Sam Bellamy

    Sam Bellamy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,231
    Likes Received:
    715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'll take the loss to Vietnam. The were a worthy opponent who owned the jungle. You guys lost to the freakin Afghani tribes. That **** is funny.
     
  20. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    6,935
    Likes Received:
    901
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I should say it is time for all to start learn Chinese :grin:
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  21. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Everyone loses to the Afghanis because they play by a different set of rules on the battleground of their own choosing. Classic Sun Tzu tactics.
     
  22. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have been hearing that expression since I was in school many decades ago.

    Curiously enough it the Chinese who are learning to speak English.
     
  23. Sam Bellamy

    Sam Bellamy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,231
    Likes Received:
    715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's a marathon not a sprint in Afghanistan. If you're going to take them out be prepared to be there for decades.
     
  24. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You could be there for a century and still lose because it is always a lose-lose for the invaders.
     
  25. Baff

    Baff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    9,641
    Likes Received:
    2,003
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Everyone ever has lost to them. Most recently of all... you.

    The thing is, the place isn't worth dying for. Just walk away.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.

Share This Page