I'm A Liberal, Ask Me Anything

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by BobbySerious, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:
    I guess that was the Easter Egg I was looking for.
     
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    BobbySerious Banned

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    After 30-40 years (post media deregulation and the rise of the internet), corporations and their massive right wing media echo chamber are sadly winning with their strategy to misinform and distort the truth to turn citizens against each other and indeed their own interests.

    The good news this will spark a progressive revolution, it's already on its way.
     
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    Dream on. Your movement is practically all petulant children.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He did the most he could? Don't you mean he did the most he wanted to do for the left? There is many things wrong with this country and Obama did not tackle hardly any of the problems we have. He was to busy with his health care plan (which Bill Clinton said was crazy) and helping gay people get rights that he forgot about us hard working American's and all of the jobs we have lost.

    How many jobs did Obama save or create while president?
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually you are wrong. I would say it's more the left but at times both parties are corrupt and try to brainwash America. Look at the election Bush ran against Kerry. They were both members of the Skulls and Bones so the election was rigged by a cult organization from Yale to ensure they won and Bush was one of many presidents they had. To put all of the blame on the right shows just how loyal you are to your party and how blind you are to what's really happening.

    I don't feel Trump is part of this group and felt it was safe to vote for him. Trump is the first president we have had in a long time that is not a puppet.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    No, nothings on its way. The revolution happened in 2008 and y'all blew your chance to rule.

    That evil big business is the culprit, huh? The same big businesses that employ millions of Americans in good paying jobs? Might want to rethink that philosophy until you can figure out how to eliminate big corporations without destroying the livelihoods their employees.

    See, thats the problem with liberalism IMO. You guys can never see the forest for the trees. Big pictures dont exist in your world. Tsk tsk
     
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    The way the right continues to attack Obama even after it's over and he's out of office indicates that they know he was far better than GWBush or trump and it's got their panties in a wad. They can't handle it.

    Speaking of bad, after all their griping about Obama taking a few vacations home to Hawaii, they now have a clown in office who has spent 7 of his 13 weekends at his own resort in Florida at a huge cost to taxpayers. And now, they got a big power struggle in the W.H. that is consuming the "administration". LOL!!!!!!
     
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    Then please answer me this....why is it that all three of our major economic recessions (1929, 1987, 2009 ) occurred immediately after the end of Conservative administrations?

    If Big Business is allowed to run completely free of its own accord without rules or regulations, as Conservatives so faithfully believe, it will invariably fall to corruption. Liberalism in the American sense, believes it must have checks and balances, regulating when necessary, and deregulating to act as a stimulus.
     
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    1) Tell me a positive about the Republicans in general.

    2) Objectivity who gets to decide if you won a substantive debate with a conservative? If it is you, how convenient says I. To place the crown of victory upon ones own head is a hollow victory.
     
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    What kind of liberal?

    Genuine philosophical liberalism, or American 'liberalism'?
     
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    Since you weren't able to provide a cogent response to my criticism of your comment, it's not me that needs to worry about looking like a fool.
     
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    Who gets to decide who won a debate?
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    I guess no one..
     
  14. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are trying to link to non causes.

    To help you understand how much Democrats have already regulated, yet prevented no depressions, watch this short video.


    My field of income is super sensitive to downturns.

    I recall entering the business in 1971 in the throes of a severe downturn. Homes were extremely hard to sell.
    We did fine until 1980. Suddenly we got hammered hard and I think that and not Iran hostages is why Reagan won the election. We had such serious inflation people could not get raises fast enough. Home prices in my area went from ... an example ($60,000 to $95,000) in 12 months of 1979. Toward the end of 1979, suddenly interest rates started to skyrocket. Carter took no action to remedy. When that recovered during Reagan's era, our next downturn was during Clinton's era. We entered the 90s with home prices having collapsed a lot. Actually during Clinton they collapsed more than during either Carter or Reagan. Reason, there were in place on homes for sale assumable loans with no qualifying.

    Late in the Clinton years, we had stopped declining and were rising one more time.

    GW Bush came along and prices kept going up. Reminded me of Jimmy Carter era.

    A bundle of factors caused the so called Bush decline but had Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac did what you advocate, there is a chance the decline need not have happened.

     
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    Late in the Clinton years anothe equity bubble appeared (the only reason the economy appeared healthy), the dot com bubble. No one foresaw it and of course it began to collapse at the end of Clinton's second term.
     
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    Yet in post #2 you implied that you had previously defeated the OP in a debate. So who decided that if other than you?
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Oh that..
    He attacked me personally other than my stance so it is an automatic loss..
    Them's the rules..
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is the major problem with Democrats who allege they are liberal. They are not liberal but this is not about that part.

    Take a herd of bison or other wild animals chased by predators.

    If the herd slows or stops to protect the weak, the predators catch up and pick off more than had they kept running.

    Humans are also animals. And Democrats think by stopping for the weak, the strong do better. But this is disproven by nature itself.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is true. I mentioned during Clinton era the housing market was weak. The Dot.com boom actually helped it recover. But Democrats totally ignore the very poor economy during Clinton's era until he benefited from the Dot.com boom.
     
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    BobbySerious Banned

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    1) there is no positive about republicans at the moment. Literally zero.

    2) these days it's easy, once you get them to say "we still beat Hillary hahaha!", you won.
     
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    BobbySerious Banned

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    Straw men abound.
     
  22. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    You mean when they point out reality, huh? How rude!
     
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    usually government regulations prevent making a lot money, but there was corporate greed since they made a lot of money giving loans to people who couldn't afford to pay them back.

    the bush decline happened when 'liberal' communism and 'conservative' crony capitalism teamed up against the people.

    ethical free market capitalism could be possible without communist regulations that force capitalists to be good, but it remains to be seen.
     
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    Yet democrats high point was Hillary. LOL
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Interesting, so we can ask you anything, but don't expect an answer. Typical liberal.
     
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