Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference

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  1. Durandal

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    This is YUUGE. Article 25 time...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-president-unfit-james-gartner-a7694316.html

    Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference

    Mental health experts say President is 'paranoid and delusional'

    Donald Trump has a “dangerous mental illness” and is not fit to lead the US, a group of psychiatrists has warned during a conference at Yale University.

    Mental health experts claimed the President was “paranoid and delusional”, and said it was their “ethical responsibility” to warn the American public about the “dangers” Mr Trump’s psychological state poses to the country.

    Speaking at the conference at Yale’s School of Medicine on Thursday, one of the mental health professionals, Dr John Gartner, a practising psychotherapist who advised psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, said: “We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump's dangerous mental illness.”

    Dr Gartner, who is also a founding member of Duty to Warn, an organisation of several dozen mental health professionals who think Mr Trump is mentally unfit to be president, said the President's statement about having the largest crowd at an inauguration was just one of many that served as warnings of a larger problem.

    “Worse than just being a liar or a narcissist, in addition he is paranoid, delusional and grandiose thinking and he proved that to the country the first day he was President. If Donald Trump really believes he had the largest crowd size in history, that’s delusional,” he added.

    Chairing the event, Dr Bandy Lee, assistant clinical professor in the Yale Department of Psychiatry, said: “As some prominent psychiatrists have noted, [Trump’s mental health] is the elephant in the room. I think the public is really starting to catch on and widely talk about this now.”

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    Read no further, good people.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sorry, that's Article 4 of the 25th Amendment!

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    Dr Gartner started an online petition earlier this year on calling for Mr Trump to be removed from office, which claims that he is “psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President”. The petition has so far garnered more than 41,000 signatures.

    It states: “We, the undersigned mental health professionals (please state your degree), believe in our professional judgment that Donald Trump manifests a serious mental illness that renders him psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President of the United States.

    “And we respectfully request he be removed from office, according to article 4 of the 25th amendment to the Constitution, which states that the president will be replaced if he is 'unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office'."
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    The president is delusional and dangerous, and certainly unfit for office. Fact.
     
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    Not that I have been particularly impressed by what Trump has done so far, but remember when Clinton kept collapsing and having seizures before the election, yet we had to act like nothing was wrong?
     
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    You're deluded. Fact.

    See what I did there?
     
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    I remember when fake news created a narrative about that. You'll notice that she's not actually suffering such health problems today.
     
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    P.S.

    "Dr Gartner was invited as an activist and was not on the actual panel. The organiser emphasises that the event was independently organised and did not represent the views of Yale University or Yale School of Medicine.”

    So don't cry about Yale.

    But, at any rate, Trump is demonstrably deluded. Look at his damned Twitter feed if you have doubts.
     
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    Ok, I'll post a dupe comment, in this here dupe thread.

    I remember armies of experts saying Trump would never win the nomination, so......
     
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    This is just sad. The left is going to try any means necessary to discredit Trump. And it won't work.

    So pathetic.
     
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    As much as I despise our so-called President, this would seem to be an unprofessional approach, reaching such diagnosis without any actual interviews or exams of the subject.
     
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    What's pathetic is how no one can say anything against Emperor Trump without being branded "the left" and dismissed.
     
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    Responding to the criticism, Dr Gartner said: “This notion that you need to personally interview someone to form a diagnosis actually doesn’t make a whole lotta sense. For one thing, research shows that the psychiatric interview is the least statistical reliable way to make a diagnosis.”


    A spokesperson for Yale University told The Independent the panel at the conference abided by the Goldwater rule during the discussions, but that the organiser was "troubled" by the "silencing of debate".
     
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    Well, what are your other means of making the diagnosis? Physical exam? Did these psychiatrists perform a physical exam on Trump? Lab Tests? Same question?
    It would seem they are basing this evaluation on nothing more than casual observations of what they see in the media.
    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mental-illness/basics/tests-diagnosis/CON-20033813
     
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    Well, what are your other means of making the diagnosis? Physical exam? Did these psychiatrists perform a physical exam on Trump? Lab Tests? Same question?
    It would seem they are basing this evaluation on nothing more than casual observations of what they see in the media.
    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mental-illness/basics/tests-diagnosis/CON-20033813

    Soooo, you are saying any observation/research/information/etc., that comes out of Yale should be summarily dismissed?
     
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    Thread Closed, Rule 11. Lacking sufficient OP elaboration

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