Is it time to invade North Korea?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by The Mandela Effect, Apr 12, 2017.

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Should the United States bomb/invade North Korea?

  1. We should leave them alone.

    23 vote(s)
    37.7%
  2. We should take out there nuclear bombs with an air stike but stop there.

    9 vote(s)
    14.8%
  3. We should fully invade, becuase the nut running NK needs to go.

    6 vote(s)
    9.8%
  4. I don't know

    6 vote(s)
    9.8%
  5. Only if China helps us fight them.

    7 vote(s)
    11.5%
  6. Only if the UN votes and agrees to help us fight them.

    10 vote(s)
    16.4%
  1. Ole Ole

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    NK never will US troops. NK prefer China and Russia. I read NK moves troops to Chinese and Russia borders.

    A possible war with not nukes.
     
  2. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roll: Would you like to expand upon that, or not? If not, then I don't really understand why you posted it!
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Well, it means I'd like YOU to expand on what it was referring to. What does pedophilia and gun crime in NK have to do with what we're discussing?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has to do with whether NK has got it right culturally and societally, or if we have?
     
  5. Cornergas

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    The USA bombed Hanoi NVietnam night after night with B52 bombers, and used every horrible weapon they have napalm, agent orange, depleted uranium...and guess what..even with 500 thousand boots on the ground they still got their rear ends kicked out by this little country of villagers...think of what NKorea with 2Million well trained troops will do to them...lol...
     
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    As much as I would like to see nukes used in NK and also some places in the middle east, we won't need to use them in NK.
     
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    You own government in the USA used small nukes to bring down the WTC towers and pulverize all the concrete and furnishings and bodies...so they have experience with nukes alright.
     
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    Are you serious? The reason the US got beat by the Vietcong was because they dressed like villagers even though they were technically military; the Vietcong were not part of the South Vietnamese government, so it was very difficult to tell who was civilian and who was military. Furthermore, they dug underground and had an ornate system of connecting tunnels that went all the way into North Vietnam. This made it very hard to fight them. They weren't a country of villagers.

    We got beat because we had standards (we won't kill civilians). And because domestically we didn't really support the war. And because we started the whole body count bs. And because someone had the bright idea of letting the media cover the war from the battlefield. There were many factors.

    North Korea is a very different place than South Vietnam. And we aren't living in the 60s and 70s anymore. We have different war tactics and the whole playing field has changed. It's not about boots on the ground anymore. If we had drones in Vietnam, the war would have been a lot different. North Korea has very little power, other than their nukes. Which is the only reason we haven't done anything about them. Well that and the fact that they haven't really attacked us yet and an invasion would break a ceasefire from around the same time as Vietnam. North Korea's 2 millions "well trained" troops won't matter; numbers dont matter anymore. And I'm sure as hell North Korea is massively outgunned by the US. The US has the largest and second largest air force in the world (Air Force first, then Navy+Coast Guard). We have the most advanced military in the world. We have an even larger military than North Korea, second only to China. They aren't even a threat.
     
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    Oh get real. The US had no real standard. They bombed towns with napalm, that went with that famous picture of that naked girl running out of one... because her napalm soaked clothes were eating through her skin. And that was no "accident". Them Vietnamese got a museum of horror, where they got all kinds of foto's made by Americans. Corpses being dragged behind their tanks. And than there is this gem of that May Lai massacre. You tell me what kind of standard was uphold on that one. Because the worst that was done to people who did that, was a 3 year house arrest on a military base the size of a medium town, with a theater and everything. If the US had any standards, they would have thrown those people in Gitmo without a trial.

    And in the end, the US... a super power, .. got their butts kicked out by a bunch of farmers. It aint any different from the US being kicked out of Somalia or the US being kicked out of Afghanistan by a bunch of goat and camel herders.

    Try a large arsenal of misslies with biological and chemical agents,... and South Korea having 10's of millions and millions of people living just across the border. Not to mention,... they can hit California with it.
     
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    Kim Phuc was running from a South Vietnamese Air Force napalm strike, not an American strike. But you know that.
     
  11. Mr_Truth

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    How many forum Republicans and conservatives are heading out to North Korea to fight their war?
     
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    So, is it your position that their use should not be an option?
     
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    Nam is ancient history mate, and anyway it was the US politicians who lost the Nam War, not the military..:)
    Gen.Westmoreland summed it up after the war when he said-
    "Washington locked me into a defensive strategy, thereby preventing me bring the war to a swift conclusion"

    As for invading N.Korea, there's no need to put boots on the ground, Don could simply draw Jong-uns teeth by surgically taking out a few of his key nuclear weapon sites so he'll no longer be a threat to anybody..:)
     
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    If we can send 59 cruise missiles to a base in Syria, we can take out NK's missile launch and production sites, known accessible nuke development sites, and put a drone on the pot belly at the same time. Maybe cooler heads will prevail in the power struggle to replace him. We can back that up with restored sanctions.

    China should be OK with it and maybe we'll get lucky and the next Nork regime may desire to join or get along with SK. China may want to help us with a tactical strike since they will be very close when NK starts a war that China doesn't want. They will definitely help with sanctions as they are already limiting trade with NK.
     
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    No, no option should be left off the table.
     
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    Are you insane?
     
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    No, but the ones in government who perpetrated this crime are definitely insane.
     
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    Too many conspiracy theories for you. Don't forget about Lincoln planning ship blacks back to Africa and the Alien cover ups. Make sure you have your tin foil hat ready.
     
  19. Mr_Truth

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    Gee, there are so many pro war types on this forum who are ever so eager to see bombs dropped on North Korea.

    But rather than waste our tax dollars on a war that would profit them and the military industrial complex I suggest that the better thing to do is to send these pro war types there and drop them off as parachutists. You know, like in the old days when they screamed "Geronimo!" This way we can whether they are really heroes or just wannabe types.
     
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    Maybe you turn the other cheek people should learn that would only get you 2 bruised cheeks. Some of us actually served in the military during wartime and actually volunteered during Vietnam instead of running off to Canada and to hide.
     
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    I think Trump is going to do something after this latest missile test by NK tonight. I just don't know what his action will be.
     
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    And that is a good thing, nobody should know what his actions will be, unpredictability should keep our enemies guessing.
     
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    There is no absolute certainty about risk and outcome of conflict. Furthermore, invasion would bring risk of conflict with both China and Russia which share borders with North Korea.

    The majority of US military forces would need to be committed to such a conflict which may leave US with reduced defences in four other current conflicts.

    The reason other US administrations did not engage in conflict with North Korea is the uncertainty of outcomes and the over-commitment of the military..

    Invasion would be an expensive operation with decades before pacification was likely.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/04/28/war-with-north-korea-no-joke/

     
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    No, but the ones in government who perpetrated this crime are definitely insane.
     
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    You can not. They got an army of a million people, and 8 million in reserve. Total population: 25 million. Their army is utterly and utterly massive. A bunch of missiles will not put a dent in it, before they will totally blow up Seoul with their chemical and biological agents.

    Why the hell would China be okay with millions and millions of poor and uneducated Korean refugees? How about the US absorbs 5 million Mexicans with no education in a couple of weeks. See how that works out.
     
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