The Holocaust: The Forbidden History.

Denialists ignore all direct evidence of the holocaust including confessions of the perps because it would definitely make their idiotic, jew hating, nazi apologism nothing more than the stinking pile of excrement it actually is.

 

¨We don't ignore confessions. We just know they aren't conclusive proof as people can be bribed, blackmailed, threatened, and tortured into making false confessions and confessions don't make the clear proof* go away.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p389_Faurisson.html
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He appeared before the International Military Tribunal as a witness on 15 April 1946, where his deposition caused a sensation. To the amazement of the defendants and in the presence of journalists from around the world, he confessed to the most frightful crimes that history had ever known. He said that he had personally received an order from Himmler to exterminate the Jews. He estimated that at Auschwitz 3,000,000 people had been exterminated, 2,500,000 of them by means of gas chambers. His confessions were false. They had been extorted from Höss by torture, but it took until 1983 to learn the identity of the torturers and the nature of the tortures they inflicted upon him.
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The texts generally collected under the title Commandant in Auschwitz. Höss is alleged to have written these texts in pencil under the watchful eye of his Polish-Communist jailers, while in a prison at Cracow awaiting his trial. He was condemned to death on 2 April 1947 and hanged at the Auschwitz concentration camp fourteen days later.
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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Auschwitz+-+Why+The+Gas+Chambers+Are+A+Myth&sm=12

 

Hoess? you dare to bring up Hoess? I am most familiar with the denialist version that he was coerced into making a false confession, except that this confession was supported by literally hundreds of independently collected pieces of evidence.

Did hoess lie to his kids and wife as well in his farewell letter before they hung the bastard?

I guess what happened to Ziereis was just a bunch of nasty jews perpetrating the hoax.
http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/574592-2/Ziereisdead

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/96/a0/8c/96a08c2e2ef4b5f2c49431a080a754f8.jpg


Excellent picture of the fate of a murderous nazi scumbag who commanded Gusen I,II,III from 1939 to 1945. karma is a bitch.

 

OK I think I have something people in this thread may be interested in.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/apr/18/opening-un-holocaust-files-archive-war-crimes-commission

enjoy

 

I'm just stating the facts. Who are the people running the Holocaust Museum here? Who are the major authors about it? Who are most of the producers and directors of the hundreds of Holocaust films?

Who runs the International Holocaust Commission on Holocaust Era Insurance Claims?

What other group of genocide victims has ever had as much sympathy or $$$$ in compensation?

 

No, you weren't just stating the facts, for instance, you stated a distortion of one fact (anti-denial laws).

As for biased sources, don't be hypocritical, unless of course you wish to sustain such a ludicrous accusation in face of the literally tens of thousands of non-jews who have written and contributed to the historical narrative. The fact that such an horrific crime originated such a "sophisticated" people where for the first time industrialized mass murder was applied to a plan of extermination is quite sufficient to be burned into the pscyhe of civilization.

And I won't even begin to get into the stupidity of such a "biased sources" accusation considering the gang of incompetent jew hating nazi apologists that inhabit the world of denialism. A world where facts do not matter, only that the jews made up the holocaust for profit, and the nazi's were good guys and all the evidence against them was faked.
If ever there was a testament to the intellectual capacity of denialists I think that is it.

 

First Arolsen now the Weiner collection of UN war crime investigations of nazis. Oh my, the conspiracy just keeps getting bigger and bigger. I bet a whole bunch of jews worked for 70 years to fake all that stuff.

 

I have no idea what the hell you are on about as usual. This is a genuine new of material. Jesus you must be really scared if you cant handle new information being released.

 

Sorry sarcasm doesn't translate well.

Back in the day when the Arolsen archive was finally made public the denialists exclaimed that soon the real evidence would be uncovered. When it didn't they claimed the communists "edited" the archive.

No, doubt they will not even bother with any initital expectations, merely claim that its all a fraud.

I am not at all scared. I hate denialists and confront them when encountered. Perhaps you can remember in the future exactly how staunch a bigot against jew hating nazi apolgists I am.

 

I have no "dog in the hunt." I am no related to anyone who died in WW2, or in the Holodomor, or Armenian genocide, or the Cambodian Killing Fields or Mao's Great Leap Forward.

Obviously you are partial to the Jews and others getting, or who have got reparations, and will fanatically defend them whatever the story is (at the time).

A quick search of top Holocaust books show the overwhelming bias you are blind to.
https://www.bustle.com/articles/22652-10-books-you-should-read-on-holocaust-remembrance-day

The reason why there are laws to prevent open discussion on historical events is always because they serve a strong agenda by the people that benefit from having it believed.

 

Oh my god not the old " i have no dog in the hunt" bullshyte.

btw, look up ww2 reparation payments.

 

My apologies. I have not read this thread. I just noticed that article in the Guardian earlier this week and when I saw a holocaust thread thought it would be appropriate to put it in particularly as the Guardian is only going to have the links for a week.

 

How do we know this isn't bogus? It also doesn't make the clear proof that there were no gas chambers (that you people are ignoring) go away.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...caust-largely-a-fraud.466383/#post-1067256489

This is true.

Give us some examples of this "Evidence" and we can talk about whether it's really evidence.

Could you go into some detail?
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rbidden-history.499636/page-4#post-1067362467

I think it just explained what the US has been doing.

 

Well, why don't YOU review the hoess confession and consider exactly what he said and what corroborating evidence there is. For somebody who supposedly only is interested in the truth, you seem to have all the denialist crap at your fingertips, but strangely you are completely ignorant of the actual evidence.

[quote1. Creamed Mush with Fog Sauce -- Never provide evidence for your assertions. In fact, respond to demands for evidence the way Dracula responds to crucifixes. Do anything you can to avoid it. Throw insults. Change the subject. Obfuscate. Laugh derisively. Claim you already gave the evidence or that someone else did. But never provide any evidence yourself (unless you provide an incomplete or incomprehensible citation along with it).
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So why don't you present YOUR evidence for claiming the holocaust is a hoax. Oh right, because its virtually all quack forensics science, bullcrap speculation and innuendo, and of course fallacious argumentation heaped upon fallacious jew hating nazi apologism.

So YOU claim a hoax - you provide the evidence of such an historic massive international conspiracy of both jews and gentiles.

 

Your author William Blum has been an anti-American and pro-Communist activist since Vietnam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Blum

Looking over his article, he only really mentioned America interfering in Communist nations or governments over the last 100 years. He also complains of anti-Communist McCarthyism in the 1950's that is no longer relevant. He does not mention all the genocides and misery caused by his beloved Leftists over the same time period. Nothing about the tens of millions sent to gulags or work camps by the Soviets and Red Chinese.

If there was any real "American Holocaust" is would be the carpet bombing and nuking of Japanese and German or Axis-occupied cities. Nothing about that, of course.

 

That was probably a false confession.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p389_Faurisson.html
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He appeared before the International Military Tribunal as a witness on 15 April 1946, where his deposition caused a sensation. To the amazement of the defendants and in the presence of journalists from around the world, he confessed to the most frightful crimes that history had ever known. He said that he had personally received an order from Himmler to exterminate the Jews. He estimated that at Auschwitz 3,000,000 people had been exterminated, 2,500,000 of them by means of gas chambers. His confessions were false. They had been extorted from Höss by torture, but it took until 1983 to learn the identity of the torturers and the nature of the tortures they inflicted upon him.
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The texts generally collected under the title Commandant in Auschwitz. Höss is alleged to have written these texts in pencil under the watchful eye of his Polish-Communist jailers, while in a prison at Cracow awaiting his trial. He was condemned to death on 2 April 1947 and hanged at the Auschwitz concentration camp fourteen days later.
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If we can't prove it wasn't false, it's far from conclusive proof.
Please link to some of this, "Corroborating evidence" so we can talk about the possibility of its being bogus.


Let's not forget about the offical lie of the lampshade made of human skin explained in the first minute of this video.

Buchenwald a Dumb Dumb Portrayal of Evil (Full Video)


If there's one confirmed lie, there may be others. You simply take the official version of everything as truth.

Read some of this and get back to me.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/american-imperialism.371897/

 

And once again, a confession from the commandant of aushwitz is not conclusive because you say it isn't, not because the content of his confession, but because you can't handle the facts that he confessed. Just like Eichmann, Shomel, and literally thousands of other nazis.

And lets not forget the lampshade as if it has any real significance in the narrative.

What I find absolutely hilarious is that you actually believe you are being smart:

 

It's a confirmed lie. If there's one confirmed lie, how can you be so trusting about everything else in the official story.

A statement made by somebody is not conclusive proof because that somebody might have been lying. People can be bribed, blackmailed, threatened, and tortured into saying things they know to be false. This is really pretty basic.

We have to look at the phisical evidence (which you ignore) in a case like this.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Auschwitz+-+Why+The+Gas+Chambers+Are+A+Myth&sm=12
The physical evidence shows there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz.

 

Evidently not

That's an irrelevance. This a discussion about the Holocaust.

 

Reviewing your past posts on the issue in this thread what do you believe, or want to believe concerning "the Holocaust?"

How many total people died at the Auschwitz camp complexes while under German control?

How many total Jews died as part of "the Holocaust" during WW2?

Is it okay to make up numbers and still be taken seriously? Or does one only have to believe there was industrial killing at German Camps as part of a "Final Solution" to be taken seriously?

9,000,000
Source: Cited by the French documentary, Night and Fog, which has been shown to millions of school students worldwide.
8,000,000
Source: The French War Crime Research Office, Doc. 31, 1945.
7,000,000
Source: Also cited by the French War Crime Research Office.
6,000,000
Source: Cited in the book Auschwitz Doctor by Miklos Nyiszli. It has since been proven that this book is a fraud and the "doctor" was never even at Auschwitz, even though the book is often cited by historians.
5,000,000 to 5,500,000
Source: Cited in 1945 at the trial of Auschwitz commander Rudolf Höss, based on his confession which was written in English, a language he never spoke.
135,000 to 140,000
Source: This is an estimate based on documents held by the International Tracing Service of the Red Cross. It is known that International Tracing Service has a complete set of registration documents. This is thought to include a complete set of roll-call data which includes twice daily tallies of those who died. Although the International Tracing Service of the Red Cross has such records, they have never officially published an accurate count of those who died, or even an accurate report as to exactly which documents they hold. However, totals from these records have been obtained by various interested parties.
The estimate of 135,000 is roughly corroborated by the "Auschwitz death books." The death books themselves are wartime German camp records, which were captured by the Soviets towards the end of the war, and hidden in Soviet achieves, until released to the Red Cross in 1989.
The death books consist of 46 volumes which document each death at Auschwitz (each death certificate consists of the deceased person's full name, profession and religion, date and place of birth, pre-Auschwitz residence, parents' names, time of death, and cause of death as determined by a camp physician). The records for the most important years, 1942 and 1943, are almost complete (there are also a few volumes for the year 1941, but none for the year 1944 or January 1945 (when Auschwitz was evacuated)).
http://rense.com/general69/dim.htm

Who is lying, or does it even matter to you?

 

Reviewing my past posts? What does that mean?
In answer to your query; the Nazis deliberately murdered millions of people deemed to be undesirables.

An accurate number is impossible to give but well over a million were murdered there

Again an accurate answer is impossible but it was in the millions

They're not made up but based upon estimates using various sources

That's a strange question to ask. Are you being rhetorical?

And?

And?

So you've never heard of translation?

Vague and unlikely to be true.

The camp's death books were incomplete and there wasn't much point in recording the names.

Holocaust deniers

 

You stand by numbers that you claim to be "impossible to give" yet insist they are "millions." Therefore you must have at least a concept that your impossible numbers could be much lower.

Getting to the heart of the issue, the "Final Solution" order/policy that is the cornerstone of the Holocaust--- let me test your faith in it.

If you must believe that the Auschwitz complex had to have killed at least 2.1 million people while in operation? Correct?

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/history-and-overview-of-auschwitz-birkenau

Using the above information (subject to change, always), the minimum number of people killed (11% of the total) before the gas chambers and crematoriums were began to be built should be at least 231,000 before August 1942. Correct?

If the at least 89% of the rest, 1,869,000 people were killed between August 1942 and November 1944, then 66,750 people on average were killed every month, and at least 2,225 were killed every day. Is that pretty much correct?

Now if you believe that the SS were given orders to kill most of the Jews sent to camps, and that weaker women and children were taken to the gas chambers right away (averaging 2,225 people a day)---then why did weak little girls and their families survive, and why did the SS waste so much time and and resources keeping them alive and sending them to multiple camps?

Irene Weiss https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/26/tales-from-auschwitz-survivor-stories

Anne Frank http://www.annefrank.org/en/Anne-Fr...orted-to-the-camps/Arrival-in-camp-Auschwitz/

 

No I said it was over a million not millions. i.e roughly 1.1m

No that's not what I said

I think that you're just going to test my patience

No I don't.

I suppose if you're using just that one website then yes

Again no as I've stated above

Because the camp also had factories and other places where they made use of slave labour and it also functioned as a place to murder people as well. It was a big place.

I don't know what you're trying to prove with these links

 

So if you don't believe that over 2 million were killed at all the Auschwitz camp complexes as the Holocaust experts at the Holocaust Museum say---then does that make you a "Holocaust Denier" as well?

I'm just showing that there are too many holes in all the stories. A big lie is easier to believe than lots of little ones.

And just because I don't believe in the Easter Bunny tales does not mean I hate all rabbits.