May 1st so called immigrants marching against Trump!

Where are all the Chinese and Indian migrants in those pics? Oh that's right, they're busy at their well paid jobs, and enjoying their wonderful free life in America.

 

Diplomats have had births in the US as have others on/not on visas, but are not recognized at citizens, so this amendment which was written to protect slaves after the Civil war in and of itself cannot cover the situation. The 14th is not a blanket statement, so pulling definitions off the web shows you are not educated in the subject, and are not an attorney/lack a legal background, which is not applicable to me. Either the SC will need to eventually properly rule or Congress will need to clarify the amendment. You're out of your depth here.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Text

"...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

What, in you allegedly expert opinion, does the word "person" signify in the above quotation?

 

It states that all people shall receive a hearing under the judiciary, that does not grant them the right to stay in the country, to get free healthcare, food, housing, clothing, schooling for their children, etc.

The obama administration turned away hundreds of thousands at the border and refused them hearings - did you far leftists complain there? No, of course not.

 

Not for long; I think the H1B jobs theft program is nearing an end - and its about time.

Personally, I think the US government should confiscate the entire cash hoard of every company with over $1 MM stashed overseas, tax it at 50%, and return the rest to the company. The day of placing the tax burden on the middle class while giving a pass to the Fortune 500 needs to end, or there is going to be an uprising in the US that makes the Civil War look like a family backyard BBQ.

 

I don't know. You didn't exactly post an article to go off of. And who says these are just immigrants? Are citizens not able to march or something?

Why not?

I mean, if they're under US jurisdiction, then they should enjoy the benefits of the US legal system.

Yes, how dare they have education, health care, and general freedoms.

And now you're just assuming that the people marching are here illegally.

False:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/daniel...ect-non-citizens-judges-say-yes/#13e4b1154f1d
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...o_noncitizens_have_constitutional_rights.html
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...yes-illegal-aliens-have-constitutional-rights
http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1302&context=facpub

Again, you're now making assumptions that illegal aliens have no rights, instead of stating that they shouldn't.

If that was the case, then why didn't you share them to begin with?

 

Are you claiming that illegal aliens have the right to all of those things? That the american taxpayer should allow people to walk across the borders and collect freebies as you list?

 

Thankfully we don't have to come up with how to deal with "alien" invasion ourselves...Let's just ask the several hundred native American tribes how they handled the problem...oh wait...never mind...

 

Ugh, this line again, #116 in the book of trolling/lies from the far left? Really?

 

How many far leftists do you know?
Every one I'm acquainted with referred to Obama as the "Deporter-in-Chief and did not vote for him.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...ocumented-immigrants-have-constitutional-rig/

"'There is no question that all persons in the United States including unauthorized migrants enjoy the protections of the Constitution,' said Gabriel (Jack) Chin, law professor at University of California-Davis. 'There is no debate about that among legal scholars.'

"The Fifth Amendment, as well as the Fourteenth Amendment protects everyone from deprivation of life, liberty or property without due process of law, Chin said.

"There have been several court decisions dating back more than a century that outline the rights of undocumented immigrants.

"The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas vs. Davis (2001) that 'once an alien enters the country, the legal circumstance changes, for the due process clause applies to all persons within the United States.'"

 

Uh, not sure who you are arguing with here, I've already stated that anyone on US soil has a right to a hearing by the judiciary, nothing more. That means they cannot be arbitrarily shot, hanged, thrown out, had their personal items stolen, raped, etc. They are entitled to a hearing, NOTHING more.

 

Have we seen dons wife's papers yet?
Amusing to have an illegal as our First Lady.
No problem with all dons illegal Russian underage"models"

 

If I was an illegal a voting booth would be the last place I would go.
My son got banned by cross check -- someone in the next state same name.
Was it Wisconsin or Illinois where cross check took 450000 off the rolls?
Smart move by the kochs

 

Omg George soros again. Amazing how much damage he can do. Much worse than the kochs. I think most people now think there was very little voter fraud, one repub lady in fla?
Standard reply, google it, no real data.
A non info wars link would be useful.
Never hear our posters sucking off their socialist benefits complain about them

 

I thought sanctuaries went back to Christian days.
Wonder how many of our whiners walked 2000 miles to get out of horrendous situations.
And we do know that USA Muslims have better education and net worth than myself and other old white farts?.
Should import more to increase the average IQ

 

And of course illegals don't get food stamps or SS but contribute to the SS of Myself and other old white farts.
Our whiners don't seem to complain about that

 

So if you know so much why don't you advise the voter fraud boys? Was it Texas that couldn't come up with one case in court?

 

They may be entitled to something more, depenfing on the outcome of their hearing. Someone who illegally crosses the border and gets caught immediately is often just as quickly sent back, agents on both sides of the border understand and recognize the situation, they can appreciate the evident facts and circumstances on the spot, probably are often dealing with the same people and each other.

Once the illegal border crosser gets away from the border circustances change and a hearing becomes necessary to determine whether changed circumstances imply greater consideration. How do we know the suspect crossed illegally? This can't be just because he speaks Spanish and doesn't know any English, it can't be just because he looks like an undocumented border crosser and has no identification. The presumption of innocence attaches, probable cause, a warrant, due process are needed.

Other rights will relate to circumstances that will have changed depending on how long the illegal border crosser has been across. Did he find work, earn money, does he rent a place, did he buy tools? If he's been in the US long enough he may have married, had children, got a car, bought a house... A hearing would be needed to determine if any rights have accrued as a consequence of these circumstances; did a right to support from a citizen spouse, an obligation of support for dependent children, expectations from licensing or accreditation result?

Although it is true that the undocumented illegal border crosser, like those who overstay their visa, are basically only entitled to notice and a hearing, at that hearing it may be shown they have gained the rights to public education for their children, financial assistance for their family, subsidized housing and other benefits offered to others in similar circumstances.

Citizenship has not been made a condition for eligibility to receive many public benefits.

 

They should at the very least.

Yes.

 

i'm just assuming that the figures that i've seen from some people a little off their rocker were way out wack but it would be interesting to see real actual estimates that were based on fact not fiction.

I remember someone quoting me $10 a pound tomatoes in a thread somewhere, and I laughed because my failed attempt at growing my own tomatoes last summer would have profited about $300 according to their crazy pricing estimates, vs me losing about $15 according to my figures.

Hell, when I go to the u-pick tomato farm and its 20cents a pound less if you pick them, certainly not $9.20

 

well, heck, why stop there? free first class plane tickets as well ! /sarcasm

 

Is there a problem?

 

And when I google i find my commie washington times list maybe a couple of hundred, omg 3 in Oklahoma.
Lots of possibilities no court cases or real proof. And this in a nation of 350000000 people?
They love saying 2mm Pennsylvanians have cards in two states. People do move. No evidence how many people abused the system.
Whatever, looks like most of the illegals voted for trump last time I looked he won.
But OMG, next election, be afraid, be very afraid.
So should I watch judge judy or waste my afternoon looking for cases to support my made up mind?
Nothing like a useful life.
If we are to google look up cross check. Greg palast forecast a trump win because of voter list tampering and thanks to him I won $5000

 

We all know the old joke?
American "uk people think we don't understand irony"
Brit "apparently"
The dreaded harder working immigrants can go to emergency rooms and that's it.
Hilary will be selling our uranium next