Why some straight men fear homosexuality

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  1. SuperfluousNinja

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    I figured this is why straight men fear homosexuals.

     
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    Did I say I was? What is your angle? Are you binary in all your thoughts? If one dislikes 1 thing about a group, that means they hate the entire group? I'm not RW partisan who sees the world as binary.
     
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    Homosexuality is a biological fear. If your child is homosexual then your DNA won't get passed on.
    In nature, when a species is overpopulated, there are more homosexual organisms. A successful organism produces viable offspring = grandchildren.
    You could argue that humans are overpopulated, but I think that the gay community is just more vocal now with the internet.
     
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    Personally, I think there are multiple causes of homosexuality. I don't think it's possible to explain it all by one method. I have noticed the distant father syndrome in gay men, but not all. I had a friend who is gay, and he definitely fit into the above category. His problem was that he was never taught how to be a man by his father (who basically was little more than a sperm donor). He craved maleness, but had a problem interacting with men, as he didn't know the unwritten rules of being an American male.
     
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    Exactly. It's an evolutionary fear. Basically down deep, our purpose is to pass our genes to the next generation.
     
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    I disagree. I think men tend to be attracted to women who resemble their mother, be it physically or behaviorally (or sometimes those who are the exact opposite). I also think childhood friends and crushes influence that somewhat. We are a product of our genes, our environment, and some random factors.
     
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    no, its an irrational fear that they too might be Gay, and might enjoy having a man fondle them sexually and perform oral sex on them, and might enjoy having another man make love to them.

    if you're not secure in your heterosexuality, gayness can be VERY scary
     
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    For some, maybe, but not for all. Down deep, we are creatures formed by evolution. The primary evolutionary instinct is to pass your genes on to your offspring (and so on). To deny that is to deny basic evolutionary biology.
     
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    Research shows that extreme homophobes are very often closet Gays or are victims of child sexual abuse
     
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    That is an interesting explanation.

    Can you prove it, though? After all, incidence of fear of homosexuality has dropped considerably in just one generation. I'm fairly sure evolution generally doesn't have such an immediate effect.

    Also, how come fear and hatred of homosexuality has, historically, been different between different societies? Wouldn't such a supposedly genetically ingrained attitude be more consistent between time periods and societies?
     
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    Angry homophobia, where you want to commit violence, is not normal or rational.
    it suggests being very insecure about your own sexuality, possibly even being Gay yourself.

    or being a victim of sexual assault, most likely as a child.
     
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    I suppose if mommy is a looker .. perhaps :) I agree with you that it is a combination of nature and nurture that shapes personality, "intelligence", and so on. Attraction is something different. Take a picture of the latest penthouse pet of the month and you are going to find a whole lot of fellows attracted to that flavor. Show a pic of granny from the hillbillies - not so much.

    It does not matter how the fellow was socialized ... the result will generally be the same (of course there is an exception to every rule - hence why there are porn movies with titles such as - granny bangers).

    The idea that teaching kids to respect the choice of others (whether it is penthouse pet, granny, or Fabio) is going to turn male children into homosexuals - is abject nonsense.
     
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    Well there's definitely more to it than that. Gay men are seen as feminine and a threat to masculinity. One of the biggest schoolyard insults is "You're gay, that's gay, etc." I think there has been a cultural push to make men less masculine. There doesn't seem to be as much stigma with lesbian women for whatever reason.
    Back to the evolutionary thing. For one thing, lesbian women can still be impregnated by a sperm donor. I am not sure about gay men finding a host woman to have their child. In the past having homosexual children was a significant threat to your family tree.
     
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    many gays understand that government sponsored homosexuality is not a good thing for the society.
    There are lot of valid reason to hate gays, political reason is number one.
     
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    there is no rational or moral reason to hate ANYONE, simply because of who they love
     
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    gays have formed strong political party, they receive government support, promoting homosexuality.
    that is a reason
     
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    Binary? Oh, you must be hypocritical then. It seems most lefties believe whatever is convenient at the time. No wonder the dems are politically impotent.
     
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    That is patently absurd. This hackneyed and infantile response to 'disapproval' was laughed at in the 20thC, so using it in the 21st is .... absurd.
     
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    Hate? What is it with this hysteria?
     
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    It was never about fear in the first place, other than that evolutionary 'fear' of gene survival. It's a satisfying ego stroke to imagine it is fear though, I understand that. It makes your position feel right and good and strong, if the only negatives found are 'fear'. Indifferent disregard is FAR more wounding.
     
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    Every moment of our lives, from birth, conspire to shape us into the sum of ourselves and our attractions. Anyone who believes that we are uncoloured by environment, with some sort of magically written code consigning us to a fixed nature for life, is either 8 years old, religious, or reads too many fantasy novels.
     
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    "hate" gays?

    there is no good reason to hate gays.
     
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    gays as a political party, as an enemy of the state
     
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    Gays are an "enemy of the state"?

    Hitler said the same about Jews



    have you ever been kissed by a man?
     

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