Political TKO? Reporter charges Greg Gianforte ‘just body slammed me and broke my glasses’

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  1. Beefheart

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    No....thugs, someone that grabs someone who is no physical threat by the throat and pins him to the ground.

    What Gianforte did is wrong, terribly wrong, and there is no amount of spin that is gonna change that.

    And, since you have no argument left, you attack my screen name.....really classy...:roll:
     
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    Obama did suck . What did he even accomplish ?
     
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    one of the most ignorant posts ever
     
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    You do not physically assault a reporter for doing their job. That is a pretty simple principle.
     
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    Typical Trumpian move: lose an argument, complain about Obama (or Hillary, or immigrants). Lol, historians are going to have a field day mocking you guys for hundreds of years.
     
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    False premise. It is not their job to antagonize those who they are questioning - if that is, indeed, what happened.

    Reporters don't get a free pass from this rule because they're reporters.

    Pretty simple principle.
     
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    I suggest you learn BBCode so you don't embed your response in my post. If you revise it, I may find reason to respond.
     
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    IF that's is, indeed, what happened. Yet, you're sure that happened already.
     
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    No one doubts your characterization. You, however, offered it without any video evidence of it. The reporter can certainly invade the personal space of a candidate and antagonize a physical response.

    You want me to try it with you, and see how long you hold out?

    Aw. Did you get a booboo?
     
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    There's a certain level of asymmetry here, though.

    Even if a journalist is "antagonizing" a candidate -- and repeatedly asking a question is, at worst, a very minor form of antagonism -- physical assault is a totally out-of-balance response.
     
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    They absolutely are charged with antagonizing those being questioned in certain situations. A journalist asks questions and sometimes those questions are uncomfortable and will lead to agitation.

    Asking a Congressional candidate about their opinion regarding a pertinent issue to the national and local debate (i.e. the CBO score of the GOP healthcare law) will be an uncomfortable and antagonistic interaction for any Republican. That is part of the job for the journalist.

    You do not engage in physical assault against those journalists without repercussions.
     
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    advocacy for more right wing violence
     
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    No, I am NOT. Have you glossed over the fact that I am the only one qualifying my posts in such a manner?

    YOUR side has drawn definitive conclusions - including you - of how no physical response is justified, regardless of the behaviour of this reporter. I suggest you've been 100% pussified if you think so.

    That's fine, but it's hypocritical. People like you aren't condemning antiFA, as an example.
     
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    FOX account is adequate
     
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    No video, but there is audio and 2 Fox news reporters were witnesses and have described what happened.

    I guess that evidence doesn't mean anything to you when it conflicts with your political belief. How sad that you can't debate this without resorting to inane statements.
     
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    "my side"... You don't learn it seems.

    The reporter can get fired for all I care if he stepped over the line. But you don't see that a chosen representative has stricter guidelines to uphold? You don't see that the representative resorted to violence and the reporter didn't? I haven't seen any source yet claiming the reporter resorted to violence himself.
     
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    I'll ask you again: do you wish to test this theory? To see if I can irritate a physical response from you by 'antagonizing' you?

    Where, BTW, do you cite this 'right to antagonize' you're now defending?

    You ignore any consideration of the possibility that this reporter's recording device was pushed in the personal space of this candidate.

    I will promise you that I can absolutely push you to react if I am allowed to push my phone into your face. It is stupid to claim otherwise, and - yet - there you are, granting no latitude to the limits of civility and reason.
     
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    LOL, you're absolutely correct, I'm not great with computers. As for whether you respond or not, it's your choice.............
     
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    When running for public office, you are expected to hold yourself to a higher standard.

    But yes, if you antagonized me by asking questions in my personal space, I would refrain from physically assaulting you until such time as I felt physically threatened.
     
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    Oh, I've learned. You're a liberal who lives overseas. You just like to hide behind the title of foreigner to avoid impugning your personal political positions.

    Nothing in that paragraph is something I've contended. I've addressed only the possibilities, and done so in response to those who wish to condemn this candidate without knowing for a fact all the circumstances.

    You, consequently, got upset that I did so.
     
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    I'm sure. :roll:

    He probably gave Ben the Peoples Elbow after all that, too...

    [​IMG]
     
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    It's easy: hit 'edit' on that post, and insert "[/QUOTE]" (without the parenthesis) between my post, and your response.

    Then hit 'save changes'.
     
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    There is audio of the assault, multiple first hand accounts, and he has been charged with misdemeanor assault.

    Do you need your grandmother to be there and vouch for it too?
     
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    Actually, I'm not. Not once did I suggest that this guy did nothing wrong. I am responding to the desire for leftists such as yourself to string this guy up and totally excuse the reporter, without any consideration of anything this reporter did.

    And I'm not surprised, as people like you have degraded public civility to the point that actions such as groups like antiFA are excused by you.

    Of course, I am willing to read your posts condemning the violence of antiFA, and you can prove me wrong, at least in microcosm.

    Can you produce that?
     
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