Report: Investigator Says Evidence Showing Deceased DNC Staffer Seth Rich Was Emailing With WikiLeak

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  1. Athelite

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    You make no sense here.

    And if not criticizing Putin was all there is, yes, it would be crazy to suspect Trump might be in bed with Russians.

    But that's not all there is.

    Since making similar remarks about Kim was pretty much all he did, no one is saying he's in bed with North Koreans.

    I always do.
     
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    Not in this case. Of course, you are in a situation where you're gatekeepers are passing off conspiracy theory as national news .
     
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    The left hangs on every word anonymous source say as long as it's anti-Trump. The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
     
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    Kind of like how the RW likes to parrot every fantastical conspiracy that spews from the delusional bowels of the RW Fever Swamp?

    Got it.

    Btw--this whole Seth Rich thing is hilarious. It was really Bigfoot.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    What about Kim.Com? It seems this guy will break a news story Monday or Tuesday once he gets his legal team involved.



    So if this is true, and this guy was also involved in some way with Seth Rich, leaking the DNC emails to wilkileaks, and he says he has the evidence, what will you do with the Russian story? Admit you were duped? Not a chance. Right? For you will go into denial, even when this guy presents the evidence Seth Rich and not Russia was the source for wilkileaks.

    Now, this will be very difficult for CNN, MSNBC and others to report on this, for if true, they are revealed as dishonest operatives colluding to take an elected president down, for purely hatred and political reasons.

    It looks like there is a possibility that you and your tribe here will find out here shortly that you were duped, that your hatred destroyed minds, rendering the ability to discern reality nonexistent. Which me and others have been telling you guys since day one. That you were dupes, fools, and gullible. For your tin foil hat thinking was from the get-go, crazy, lacking credibility. That with all of those leaks designed to hurt trump, not one leak contained one shred of evidence. Now, a sane, healthy mind would have considered this, and yet, your tribe didn't. It was obvious to the critical minds here that your conspiracy theory was just too far out, for you would have good americans committing treason, while knowing all of their conversations with any Russian would be recorded, and accessed with the push of a mouse. I guess you think republicans are like the banana republic dems? Criminals? Well, pull out your mustard because you guys will be choking down your dirty hats by the time this week is over, and the truth is revealed.....that Rich leaked to wilkileaks and the Russians had nothing to do with it, although I am sure they read all of Hillary's classified emails on her private server. Which means since Rich was the leaker, Russia would not have tried to collude with trump, on these emails. LOL. Your case against trump, may fall apart this coming week. Perhaps then we will discover the DNC or Hillary, murdered the leaker, Rich. What a fitting end to this Russian ruse. The dems lose once again. And once again, trump was right.
     
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    If he is dead, there would no reason for Wikileaks to protect his identity as their source.
     
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    Anti-Trump fanatics can deny all they want, irrefutable fact is that the rogue elements within Democrat party, and we all know who they are, issued the order to execute a very fine young man. I guess integrity and honesty is enough to get you killed in mafia run like DNC.
     
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    "Seems" implies assumption and assumption is not synonymous with fact. The source needs to be verified and vetted.
     
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    Source citation needed for claimed fact.
     
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    Confirmed? Awesome! Now where is the corroborating evidence that proves for a fact that the claim is true?
     
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    Seth Rich's new "family spokesman" is Brad Bauman a professional Democrat crisis PR consultant with the Pastorum Group.

    That tells you all.
     
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    and then Wheeler changed his mind and admitted his ONLY source for info, is the Fox News reporter.

    no FBI guy.

    no police.

    no one but the Fox News lady
     
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    why do Conservatives always have to race-bait?
     
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    I know about wnd.com's reputation and ordinarily I wouldn't post an article from them. But the author here makes such a good point that I would be remiss if I didn't post it. Because of all the questions about the Seth Rich case he argues for a special counsel in the investigation. Like the author I've noticed the MSM's lockstep insistence on the whole thing as just a simple robbery and I have also noticed its 'strident incuriousness'. Honestly I have no idea what happened, I want any investigation to just follow the evidence wherever it may lead.

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/the-case-for-a-special-counsel-in-seth-rich-murder/

    THE CASE FOR A SPECIAL COUNSEL IN SETH RICH MURDER
    Exclusive: Joseph Farah asks why media are 'stridently incurious' about case
    Published: 8 hours ago

    To listen to the Democratic National Committee, the major media and the Washington, D.C., police department, the murder of Seth Rich last year is a simple case of a random, violent, unsolved street crime in the nation’s capital.

    Maybe that’s true.

    But there are enough peculiarities about the way this case has been investigated to suggest otherwise.

    Here are only a few:

    Police never questioned the slain DNC information technology employee’s co-workers, as would be routine in a homicide investigation.
    Police never questioned the owner and other employees of the bar Rich had left shortly before he was murdered.
    Police never viewed the surveillance cameras in and around the bar that might show if anyone left with Rich or was following him.
    Police in Washington’s overwhelming Democratic city have had a strange relationship with the DNC throughout the investigation. When a private investigator called police to check on progress in the case, he was called back by then DNC Chairwoman Donna Brazile.
    The DNC has provided a media spokesman for the Rich family.
    The DNC has denied any suggestion that Rich may have been working with WikiLeaks on the huge dump of emails released during the campaign last year, insisting, of course, on its narrative of a Russian hack.
    In short, the DNC seems to be attempting to guide the police investigation from even considering the possibility that Rich’s murder could have anything to do with his work.

    That’s a huge red flag and borders on obstruction of justice considering the total political control Democrats wields over the city.

    So, what’s going on here?

    Will Rich’s murder be just another unsolved crime for which there is no apparent motive and no suspects?

    The concern about a possible cover-up in this case is reaching epidemic proportions throughout the U.S. And the attitude of the so-called “mainstream media” only compounds those concerns.

    Why are the media so stridently incurious? Don’t they want to solve the murder by following standard investigatory protocols and by investigating all the possibilities? Why should this murder case be handled differently than every other murder case? Why are the reporters and news organizations and private investigators who ask questions about the lack of progress in the case vilified as “conspiracy theorists”?

    And what’s the obvious solution?

    In the case of the allegations of Russian involvement in the hacking of the DNC during the 2016 election campaign, a special counsel has been appointed to oversee the investigation.

    Yet, after many months of multiple investigations, no evidence of Russian involvement has been produced.

    Meanwhile, we have the Seth Rich murder case – seemingly going nowhere, with DNC officials openly restricting the flow of information.

    Is it possible Seth Rich could have been involved in leaking DNC emails to WikiLeaks, as even Julian Assange has broadly hinted? Could it be that Rich, and possibly others at the DNC, risked their lives as whistleblowers to reveal scandal within the DNC – only to see their heroic work attributed to Russia for political reasons?

    I’m not certain. But I am curious. And I can’t understand why others would attempt to thwart an open and honest murder investigation by narrowing the parameters of the probe. What would be their motivation?

    Does that make sense?

    That’s my case for a truly independent counsel investigation. This shouldn’t take a year to conduct. After all, it’s a murder case. The focus should be on who was responsible – like any other murder case. Who had the motive, means and opportunity? And all the evidence should be examined without regard to where the investigation leads.

    What’s wrong with that?

    Why should that even be controversial?

    It’s time to conduct a real investigation into the murder of Seth Rich – for his sake, his family’s sake and for the sake of the American people and the principle of equal justice under the law.
     
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    I keep reading "debunked" but haven't seen how it's been debunked. Snopes follows the DNC party line by detailing everything Obama did to push the narrative about Russia, but doesn't say how the conspiracy has been debunked. Doesn't debunked mean proof the idea is crap? Is the DC police statement really debunking anything at all? So what if the family doesn't want the truth out?
     
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    Rich’s family, D.C. police, the DNC, an anonymous former federal law enforcement official, and a current FBI official deny Wheeler’s claims. Rich’s laptop “never contained any e-mails related to WikiLeaks, and the FBI never had it,” the former official told NBC News. The current FBI official told NBC Washington’s Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) never gave Rich’s computer to the FBI.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266732/slain-dnc-official-contacted-wikileaks-matthew-vadum
     
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    facts dont matter for rwers hungry for ridiculous conspiracies, ie, the birther movement. they have become alex jones apostles, and reality apostates
     
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    Homicide investigation isn't a federal thing so that gets left in the hands of the local police.
     
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    Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......Washington D.C. is governed by the feds.

    As the federal capital, the constitution grants the United States Congress exclusive jurisdiction over the District in "all cases whatsoever."

    Let me ax you a personal question....have you ever been right about anything?
     
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    Check your facts.. I did.
     
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    well this case has been investigated by the police. yet nitwit conspiracy rwers do not accept these facts.

    as far as conspiracies, nary a one from rwers has ever been true, yet the count is still rising.
     
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    The FBI doesn't investigate homicides unless there is some cross over like in a civil rights violation case. They leave it to the local police.. in the Rich case The Metropolitan Police Dept. They do investigate murders on Indian Reservations.
     
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    Here's more:

    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...annity-conspiracy-theories-seth-rich-fox-news

    Why is Sean Hannity peddling bonkers conspiracy theories?
    Moustafa Bayoumi
    Watching the Fox News anchor give credence to a bogus story linking a murdered DNC staffer to WikiLeaks is painful – and deeply disturbing
    Sean Hannity
    ‘Assassination accusations need evidence to be credible.’ Photograph: Carolyn Kaster/AP

    @BayoumiMoustafa
    Thursday 25 May 2017 10.04 EDT Last modified on Thursday 25 May 2017 15.49 EDT
    Persistence is a funny thing. Either it’s an exalted sign of a noble being willing to suffer a task against all odds, or it’s an indication of an idiot unwilling to change his mind. Fox News’s Sean Hannity likes to think he fits into the former camp. But even Fox News knows he belongs in the latter.


    The latest reason? Hannity persists in peddling a thoroughly debunked conspiracy theory that is not just brazenly misguided (it’s a conspiracy theory!) but is downright painful. This time, the theory revolves around Hannity’s exploitation of the untimely death of a young Democratic National Committee staffer named Seth Rich.

    Last summer, the 27-year-old Rich, who had been working for the DNC for not much more than a year, was tragically shot in the back late one night near his home in Washington DC. From the outset, the police suspected a botched robbery, but as Rich’s possessions were still on him and since he was a staffer for the Democrats, rightwing media soon began spinning a different story.

    Without a shred of evidence, conservatives were not only claiming that Rich was the source who delivered thousands of DNC emails to WikiLeaks but also suggesting that he had been assassinated by the Democrats for his act.


    This is bonkers, of course. For one, assassination accusations need evidence to be credible, and American intelligence officials have since stated their belief that a Russian military intelligence unit provided the emails to WikiLeaks. But last August, when Julian Assange started throwing some make-believe gas on an illusory fire, perhaps to deflect attention away from a possible Russia-WikiLeaks connection, the story flourished. Assange also implied Rich’s death was a whistleblower’s murder, with WikiLeaks even offering a $20,000 reward for information about the murder.

    With Assange’s help, any connection to reality was soon severed. The conspiracy theory grew wings and was airborne, flying around conservative airwaves like a mad, screeching parakeet. Hannity, who holds the dubious distinction of being the most pro-Trump mainstream media personality, squawked and hooted. Repeatedly. Ecstatically.

    But it’s not true. None of it. There’s no evidence whatsoever showing any connection between Rich and WikiLeaks.

    It all came crumbling down this month, when Fox 5 DC, a local Fox News affiliate, aired an interview with Rod Wheeler, a private investigator looking into Rich’s death. On air, Wheeler confirmed that sources in the FBI had told him they could link Rich to WikiLeaks, and the conservative media went into overdrive.

    Fox News subsequently ran a story claiming a “federal investigator” had confirmed the Rich-WikiLeaks contact. Within hours, Wheeler recanted, explaining to CNN that he had gotten his information from – wait for it – Fox News!

    Yes, you and I both know that Fox News carries a heavy burden. Besides having lost Bill O’Reilly and Roger Ailes recently, the network also has to maintain the appearance of being a legitimate news organization and not be seen merely as conservative propaganda in high-definition blonde highlights sandwiched between reverse-mortgage advertisements blaring for 24 hours a day. We all sympathize. The network retracted the story.

    The entire saga has been incredibly difficult for Rich’s parents. “The amount of pain and anguish this has caused us is unbearable,” Rich’s parents wrote in an op-ed in the Washington Post. “With every conspiratorial flare-up, we are forced to relive Seth’s murder and a small piece of us dies as more of Seth’s memory is torn away from us.”

    Hannity said he understands the pain the Rich parents are feeling, but he won’t back down. In other words, the Rich-WikiLeaks story was thoroughly debunked. Nevertheless, he is persisting.

    If you’re keeping track, the persistence score is currently as follows: Elizabeth Warren: noble. Sean Hannity: idiot.

    After the Fox News retraction, Hannity stated on Twitter: “I am not stopping, I am working harder”. He also claimed he’s persecuted by “Liberal Fascism” because there is now understandable pressure building on his advertisers to withdraw their dollars from his show. And he generously thanked his “irredeemable friends” for their support.

    I suspect Hannity thinks “irredeemable” means something else than “not able to be improved or corrected”, which is the generally accepted definition. Or maybe he’s just being honest about his friends.

    Regardless, his comment makes me think that, while we don’t need Hannity on the air any longer, maybe we do need new words in our language. Allow me to propose one.

    Hannity (n): 1. the blockheaded belief in something beyond all facts to the contrary; 2. the sum of the results of being caught in an ideological lie but continuing anyway; 3. a description of the cynical politics of the factually challenged rightwing media.

    I’ll use it in a sentence: when Donald Trump keeps saying he has won the most electoral college votes since Ronald Reagan, he’s uttering something worse than a lie; he’s stating a Hannity.
     
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