DeVos: If States Discriminate Against LGBTQ Students, It’s Cool By Me

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  1. cd8ed

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    That's federal law not state law. Do you not understand what a "states right" is?
     
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    Which case of discrimination towards Christians are you referring to?

    Are you saying is that there is no federal law protecting LGBT from discrimination so it's okay? And punishing Christians for said discrimination....is discrimination towards Christians?
     
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    I am positive that during our founders era, homosexuals were around. Seems as if the Founders thought of everything.
     
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    if you get tax exempt status, you should not be allowed to discriminate.
     
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    See, I was right. You don't understand the answer. You're arbitrarily picking types of discrimination to be upset about. You think that single sex schools could possibly be okay, but then get outraged by schools segregated by sexual preference? Why?

    This is what blows my mind about progressives and the progressive stack. They obsess over the segregation special interest identity groups. They willingly self segregate into safe spaces to discuss identity problems that only they have the privilege to understand. They admonish the assimilation of these identity differences as "appropriation" and take offense if someone eats the wrong food without the proper progressive credentials. But then, it only takes something like this for them to momentarily throw away all their thought on the matter and argue the complete opposite of everything they were talking about 5 seconds ago.
     
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    Why do you consider them to be "fake" Christians? They don't consider themselves to be "fake" Christians. They base their beliefs on the Christian Bible.
     
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    I'm not surprised that you ignore the Constitution whenever it doesn't suit your needs.
     
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    Funded Privately- not with taxpayer dollars.
     
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    How exactly is allowing parents who don't believe in encouraging these lifestyles to spend their own educational dollars on their children discriminatory?
     
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    It is not bigotry to evaluate a person's history and draw conclusions from that.
     
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    I can't keep explaining strict scrutiny to you over and over. It is a very basic concept. Medical schools can discriminate against dumb people, flight schools can discriminate against the blind even though they must follow public accommodation law. Their compelling interest is obvious. I will ask again (so everyone can see how afraid you are to answer)

    What is the compelling interest to discriminate against sexual orientation in schools.?
     
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    I can't keep explaining strict scrutiny to you over and over. It is a very basic concept. Medical schools can discriminate against dumb people, flight schools can discriminate against the blind even though they must follow public accommodation law. Their compelling interest is obvious. I will ask again (so everyone can see how afraid you are to answer)

    What is the compelling interest to discriminate against sexual orientation in schools.?
     
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    They are not spending their money, they are spending taxpayer money.
    I have zero children, I am forced to pay into the public education system, so they are taking my money to discriminate and brainwash their children - no thanks.

    If they pay for private school out of pocket then they should be free to teach whatever lies they believe to be prudent.
     
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    For the third time it is the same compelling interest used to discriminate biological sex.
     
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    Then all you need to is make that case in a court of law if challenged. You will lose. There can be gay kids in class and you wouldn't even know. A judge would laugh this out of court. LOL
     
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    They pay taxes, too. They are taking half of the money paid for their child's education, to spend as they see fit, instead of submitting to government dictating where and what their children will learn , with their OWN MONEY.

    It's called CHOICE. It's a part of Freedom.
     
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    Freedom to discriminate absent compelling interest is tyranny
     
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    It isn't their money. If they want private education they can pay for it, not steal it from the taxpayers
    You have no idea what that word means
     
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    They do not wish to promote the LGBT lifestyle choices at their schools, which absolutely IS a "compelling interest"...to them.

    And to do so is the OPPOSITE of tyranny. Where do you come up with such nonsense? LGBT kids have plenty of NON-PAROCHIAL options for school.

    But, of course, the LGBT Attack Squad thinks it should be able to force its deviant lifestyle choices into everyone else's lives.

    Sorry...those 8 hellish years are over; you now have now more "special privileges"; just the same rights as everyone else.
     
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    Let me illustrate the progressive hypocrisy on this issue.

    If I passed the hat around to establish a feminist school that specializes in the introduction of STEM subjects to low income minority girls, the progressive money would flow like wine at the festival of Bacchus regardless of whether or not I allowed rich white butts to occupy any of my classroom seats. Private specialization can be discriminatory because that discrimination is not necessarily immoral. Specialization is an important function of society and there's obviously a public demand for specialized educational experiences. There is absolutely no reason for the government to pick winners and losers especially since it has a proven track record of being absolutely terrible at it. Society is quite capable and well equipped to decide whether or not a specific model of school should be successful. If you think a specific identity group is currently being undeserved by the available choices, this is an opportunity, not a calamity. You can establish an institution to serve this population. We don't need the force of government to compel that type of morality. With government out of the way, you can make your own choices.

    That's because government immorality is much harder to combat. It's hard to overturn immoral legislation that institutionalizes discrimination. For example, a law that prohibits a black person from owning a school, or attending a school attended by whites is immoral. A law that prohibits a white school from accepting black students is immoral. We fought lots of battles and lost many lives to overcome this immorality. By the same token, a law that forces a school to accept a student is equally immoral. The real progressive hypocrisy is in the identity politics they preach. If blacks have a unique identity & set of ideals that are mitigated by the color of their skin, then why can't blacks establish a school dedicated to the advancement of those unique ideals? Why can't any of the identity groups they worry about from moment to moment do this? Why is it wrong to do this if the unique perspectives are supposed to be maintained as unique and free from "appropriation?"
     
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    THEY ARE THE TAXPAYERS. What part of that is too much for you to grasp?
    They are CHOOSING where to spend the money collected for THEIR KIDS' EDUCATIONS, where they see fit.

    If they are not using public schools, why should they pay for them? Give them school tax exemption then?

    THEY ARE PAYING TAXES , TOO.


    Amazing how much the left hates TRUE FREEDOM and EQUALITY, and wants to dictate to everyone about everything.

    Already APPROVED by the judiciary. Get over it.
     
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    You need only prove that in a court of law. I could easily say I don't want conservative kids in my kids school because of their delusional beliefs. Good luck. You will never win this one
     
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    It's already been won. You lost. Parents can use the tax money collected for their kids' educations at parochial schools, in the form of vouchers, as it is THEIR TAX MONEY, too.
    The parochial schools are not required to become public schools. GETTING THEIR KDS OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS is the point, and it has already been adjudicated.

    Sorry about your need to dictate to other parents what to do with their kids being shot down, and all...
     
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    I laughed out loud when I read this. You want your separate but equal SO BAD. You want to divide americans SO BADLY. You want white only christian schools (recieving federal dollars) in neighborhoods where there may be only one or two blacks so if they are the best schools in that neighborhood the blacks can not get in. You will not get my tax dollars for this. If you do not understand strict scrutiny by now you never will
     

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