Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me

Obama and the U.N. and the media and those on the left. They really do not care about the truth, they would rather vilify Israel. This one minute video is a nice little reminder of the truth. The Palestinian leadership and goals are just as violent and hateful as many radical Islamist cells.



Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me

President Donald Trump lambasted Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, after the president claims the PA leader deceived him regarding his party’s involvement in anti-Israel incitement.

Trump met with Abbas in the PA-controlled city of Bethlehem last week during his two-day visit to Israel. The two held a joint press conference, at which time the president praised Abbas’ commitment to restarting negotiations with Israel for a final status agreement.

But according to a report by Channel 2 Sunday evening, the closed-door meeting between the president and the PA chairman was anything but cordial.

A US official present during the meeting claims the president expressed outrage with Abbas, yelling at him regarding Abbas’ claims that his Fatah faction was not involved in anti-Israel and anti-Semitic incitement.

“You tricked me in Washington,” the president is said to have yelled at Abbas, referencing the PA leader’s March trip to the US capital.

During his March get-together with the president, Abbas claimed he was dedicated to advancing peaceful relations with Israel, and that the PA was not engaged in incitement against the Jewish state.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu publicly called out Abbas’ claim, noting the PA’s continued material support for jailed terrorists and promotion of hateful propaganda encouraging young Arabs to take up arms against Israel.

"I heard President Abbas yesterday say that the Palestinians teach their children peace,” said Netanyahu. “Unfortunately, that's not true. They name their schools after mass murderers of Israelis and they pay terrorists,” he said at the opening of a meeting with the Romanian prime minister in Jerusalem.

“You talked to me about peace, but the Israelis showed me that you are personally supporting incitement,” Trump reportedly told Abbas last week.

During their joint presser last Tuesday, President Trump alluded to the PA’s funding for jailed terrorists, calling it an obstacle to peace.

"Peace can never take root in a place where violence is tolerated, funded and even rewarded,” said President Trump. “We must be resolute in condemning such acts in a single, unified voice. Peace is a choice we must make each day, and the United States is here to help make that dream possible for young Jewish, Christian, and Muslim children all across the region."
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/230295

 

Pretty obvious that the Palestinians are double talking pretty much everyone, from what I can see the Israeli's do it too.

The problem with this stuff is the same issues we have with our 2 party system here at home. No one wants to actually solve the problem, just yell a lot and try to play the victim card as much as possible

"Nuh uh, that person is way more evil that I am. Just look at what they did (insert random instance of random date here), they did it first!!!"

The world is a bunch of children right now, we are due for a big conflict to clear the brush.

 

I agree with a lot you say here about public discourse and the behaviors of politicians and lay people. Thanks.

However, I strongly object to you kind of insinuating that Israel is as much of a denier or liar or blockage to peace as the Arab world. Nothing could be further from the truth. (imo)

 

Zionists (like Trump) can't even respect their own puppet. Sad.

 

The Palestinians are obviously not willing to set up a functioning state. The one state solution it is then...

 

You're blaming the Palestinians because Trump knows nothing about Israel/Palestine and acts unprofessionally because Netanyahu or possibly son in law starts stirring.

 

Oh then you have never studied the situation. Prepare to have your delusions shattered!

http://jfjfp.com/?p=92814

The book, a lengthy extract there is a link to above gives a very different story of early zionists, people who were considered 'antisemetic' by non zionist Jews. There is a fair bit of information on this. Another good book is What Price Israel by Alfred Lillenthal a conservative Jew who worked in the state department written in I think 1953.

and as to now. Well well you are blaming the prisoners. Imagine being 50 years old and having been a prisoner all your life by intruders into your country supported and allowed by the richest country in the world with the best army. Marshal - you know of the Marshall plan knew things would work out as they have with the arabs if they supported Israel and went against their intent that Colonialism was over and did not allow the indigenous people of Palestine the right of self determination and he knew the zionists would always be going on taking more land and always using as an excuse self defence. That lengthy extract which there is a link to above, tells you how that was always the intention right from the very earliest zionists.

As to the people you are talking about.

cont'd http://jfjfp.com/?p=92822

I am betting you are like most people and would abhor living a captive having your land taken away bit by bit as you are held at gun point and your livelihood and resources are taken from you. You would hate the idea of your children and grandchildren having to live without rights for eternity and that is Israel's intent for the people of the Palestine. Given that, why do you support another people being treated so inhumanely?

 

Anna Bat-Chai Wrobel

In the Beginning

That you took us for strangers
is what hurts.
You saw some white faces
ignored the brown
called our broken-backed
men colonizers.

You rejected our Semitic tongue
as if it were English or Turk,
our Hebrew the very twin
to your speech.

We wore ancient scarves
built our own dwellings
worked our own hands.
Did not see you as servants
but as dwellers like we.

Before you killed us after
the Great War
before you made deals with
Final Solutions
we did not steal your father’s land.
What was not sold or granted
neither was it taken.

Then 1947 and the word went out.
1948 – Arab League rejection
attack and invasion.
We almost fell to your many armies.

That you took us for strangers
is what hurts.
That you still do has become
for us a bad habit.

The Truth................http://jewishcurrents.org/who-owns-the-land/

The basic canon of Arab life. 'It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel'

 

For anyone who might be interested in The Arabic Mind...........http://ebooksearch.club/book-depi.php?id=359061&src=gsite

Biography of Raphael Patai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Patai

 

That's rich - Trump mad at someone ELSE for telling a lie?
He, who lies all the time???
K A R M A.

 

Well isn

Well, isn't it about time for SOMEONE to be mad that those liars?

 

Israel and USA ?

 

I am sorry I am not able to take the time to read your whole post, therefore, you can accuse me of being dishonest.
But I am not new to this game, far from it. For you to cite one or two sources ---- or pull out those cherished quotes from Zionists to prove you are right even though the facts on the ground prove you are wrong ---- to think you have made your case is a joke. We are not stupid, we are just angry. We are angry at the spineless West who will not admit the truth about this ageless conflict, much less do anything about it. We are angry at the mainstream media for being lap dogs for the Arabs and all too often enemies of Israel. We are angry at the evil U.N. for being useful tools for, first, communism and now for Arab malevolent designs. We are angry because affluent professors and elitist minds in the West are perpetually making outlandish statements and falsehoods against Israel and the ignorant people drink the kool aid.
You will not win this war, not the war on words, the war on the ground, or the war in the heavens. I do not know what your motives are but they are sadly and seriously misguided. (imo)

 

Troll alert

 

When did Donnie ever care about the truth?

 

You all keep as a constant reminder how impossible it is for honesty and reason to prevail in the world of leftism.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ealism-from-president-to-palestinians.506012/

Can you remember any other President calling them out
as Trump did Abbas?

No.
It has been the old approach tried on Stalin, "Let's treat him like one of us and maybe he will behave as one of us". Look how well that worked out.

I'd like to see the U.N. deal with Palestinian transgressions just once!
Start with an audit of their management of funds received. Arafat died a rich man!


Moi

r > g

Make Pay Its' Fair Share!
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Troll alert!

 

More like ignorance alert. Do you seriously not realize that the US media is false narrative and propaganda central ?

 

Where were you during tho Obama years?

 

Guess why we're angry at Israel. Theft of land which isn't yours to steal, serial commission of war crimes (the use of human shields), total disregard for the laws of the UN which, by becoming a member state, you are obligated to abide by. Tell me which of those are falsehoods. That's just a few reasons. And then there's your constant whining about being victims of Arab oppression, when it is your own government who is the oppressor.

 

Defensive much? Your Donnie is a serial liar. Want some examples?

 

I would have a better chance of teaching a five year old calculus than convincing you of anything.
So I will not try. Have a nice life.

 

What "puppet" is that, dear? But but but you claimed last week Israel was the tail wagging the US dog, so which is it? Or do you just change your story every thread when it suits you?

 

LOL, that one state for them is Jordan. They are welcome to move there, or back to syria/egypt whenever they are ready to.