The Five Lightpoles at the Pentagon

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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    Been meaning to talk about this because one of the theories about the Pentagon that tries to account for the light poles is that there was some sort of "flyover" that nobody witnessed. The story roughly goes like this: a plane flew low enough to clip the poles but didn't hit the Pentagon, it flew over and either fired a missile or bombs went off inside the Pentagon. To your point; it seems bizarre that you would need bombs if you had planes and if you had planes, why would you need bombs?
     
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    It was witnessed. Start watching this at the 7:20 time mark.

    National Security Alert - Sensitive Information Part 5/8


    Watch it until the 4:45 time mark in part 6.

    I provided a link to the page with all of this info but you refused to look at the info.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-pentagon-on-9-11.482175/#post-1066780237
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh I remember when the FBI conspired to blow the towers in 93. Sad state of affairs in america when your own gubmint plots against you and murders its own citizens.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Do you realize that you are attempting to reason with people that are so incredulously in denial they dont even comprehend that a conjunction gives someone a choice between equal parts or corresponding parts?

    I am not sure how anyone can have a legitimate debate when they insist on changing the meaning of words to suit their political agenda?
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    I am not sure how anyone can have a legitimate debate when they do not know the meaning of words like “half”.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    stop blaming me for your failure to comprehend that 2 corresponding parts of something that can be divided into 2 unequal parts is also considered half which is the way I used it. Worse you assume it wasnt half you never measured it. Seems you have a habit of coming up with pretend data. Its your **** up not mine.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I always find it humorous when someone wants to argue rocket science and they cant comprehend what they read. I made steaks up over the weekend and asked a friend if she wanted the big half or the small half. Hey its your thread feel free to devolve it into abject obtuse foolishness LOL
     
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    Are you sure it wasn't a Morton's steak?
     
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    I think he's a paid sophist who knows that 9/11 was an inside job as well as the truthers do.

    http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html
    https://openheartedrebel.com/2012/0...-confessions-of-a-paid-disinformation-poster/


    These people will never admit anything so what I do to neutralize their sophistry is debate the most basic points that they try to avoid. They end up having to say some pretty lame things to maintain their positions. Something lame said in an authoritative patronizing manner is still lame so their success rates go down a lot. Their not admitting anything doesn't really matter; the only thing that matters is their success rates.
     
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    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    Half a dollar as in the coin…is always worth 50 cents. It isn’t worth any “corresponding part” to anything else.

    Anyway, the light poles were meant to disengage when hit. The only reason for the severance was the sheer speed of AA77.

    You still haven’t accounted for how all 5 of them got there if there wasn’t a plane that hit them.
     
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    Then your friend probably thinks that you’re challenged mentally.
     
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    It doesn't do any good to pretend this isn't there.
    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=9632&st=0&start=0

    It's in post #2 on page #1 so all of the viewers can see it. You just look silly when you act as if it weren't there.
     
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    Just for kicks to get a good laugh I text her your post and she immediately quipped back that your statement is ridiculous and went on to say: "you can break a silver 50 cent piece in unequal halfs take it to 2 different metal dealers in exchange for the meltdown value of its weight in silver." She went on to remark about your post saying: "ya cant fix stupid, dont waste my time with that **** I have better things to do."

    Since that is her impression of your posts I imagine most other readers are laughing their asses off as well.

    I informed you before that the light poles are not designed to disengage when hit, that is total bullshit. The pole base is frangible meaning the base is designed to shatter when struck by a vehicle that rolls on the ground, and your bs is more of the same typical OCT supporters one broadswept blanket theory fits all conditions falsehood as scott has given you links twice now that clearly explains it to you, and again your post shows complete lack of comprehension and understanding how these devices are designed to work.

    I have no idea why you continue to insist that I solve your little mystery for you, again its not my problem and beyond the scope of my give a **** since my purpose has been accomplished which was to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the official plane knocking down light poles story is bullshit. I suggest you ask the alleged investigators if you want to know how those poles got there because they are not the result of a plane hitting them.


    If there is any other physics or engineering matters I will be happy to help you understand them so you dont continue to post such laughable arguments.
     
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    These people dont think things through, seems a case of stubborn obtuse uninformed denial that fuels their positions, a new religion in the making, faithfully following a piper instead of using their heads.
     
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    A half dollar is worth 50 cents; nothing else.

    I think it’s time you explain the 5 light poles and how they got there.
     
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    Since you have proven you cant comprehend something as simple as the word half why would anyone expect anything else that you post is correct?

    I already answered your pole question again "not a plane".
     
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    I'm guessing a construction crew put them there. I don't believe someone planted 5 pole seeds, watered them and they just grew out of the ground.
     
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    Okay, thanks to the cab driver, we know when the poles were knocked down. So what could possibly knock down 5 poles not in a straight line, knock a giant generator off of it’s moorings and destroy concrete on the hello pad?
     
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    you dont 'know' any such thing. we know for a fact thanks to science that a plane could not have knocked them down, science and forensics are used to disqualify witnesses, that means you cabby lied, the rest is not relevant, because we know for a fact the gubmints story is 100% purebred bullshit. what made things go bump and thunp in the night is your problem you are the one defending the OCT.
     
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    Yes we do.
    What science is that?

    The light poles were built to disengage if hit—which is what they did.

    Further, why would the alleged conspirators even include this yarn about the Cabbie when it wasn’t necessary (poles could be knocked down without hitting a cab) or, for that matter, even the poles.

    That you can’t explain the physical evidence is your problem.
     
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    Sorry I dont hear your rhetoric, I dont hear witnesses that science proved to be lying hence your whole premise is disqualified, too bad.
     
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    So in the world of truthers, the five light poles were planted in broad daylight with nobody seeing anyone do it. Which is strange because the plane hitting the Pentagon would draw a lot of eyeballs. Yet none of those eyeballs saw anyone planting lightpoles, setting the generator on fire, knocking it off it's moorings, or planting any of the dozens of pieces of AA77 that were found both outside AND inside the Pentagon.

    To the dismay of some here, science has not proven that a light pole weighing about 400 pounds could stop a plane or sheer off any section of a wing traveling at 550mph or thereabouts. It could affect the avionics and cause the plane to crash...which is exactly what AA77 did incidentally.

    I was hoping there would be some learned commentary explaining the downing of the light poles but there was none.
     
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    You keep making unsupported claims about AA77 but whenever you're asked to point to any investigation that conclusively proves AA77 had anything to do with 9/11 (other than being an unsupported official claim that you insist on parroting, as opposed to questioning), you ignore the question. Then you rail on about other theories (usually injecting your mythical "world of truthers" demons) when you can't even show your own theory is anything but a theory that you pretend is fact. BURDEN OF PROOF, it's your claim (that you plagiarized from the OCT), it's your burden of proof. Before you try to ridicule anyone's theory you need to prove your own theory is fact. And your theory is that AA77 downed 5 light poles before it impacted the Pentagon (yet another unsupported theory). Prove it, opinion is not proof and neither is parroting the unproven OCT.

    Note: For your convenience I'll take the position that an airplane MAY HAVE downed 5 light poles on 9/11 and MAY HAVE impacted the Pentagon and that airplane MAY HAVE been AA77. But I want proof, the kind where the debris forensically matches and belongs to AA77, just one piece, preferably the FDR but I'll be satisfied with any part. Please provide a legitimate verifiable link if you can.
     
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    Thats some great spin.

    What you meant to say is in the world of scientists engineers and physicists who have the talent to realize there are many ways to get poles on the ground other than planes.

    The problem is that lay people have such limited knowledge, much like you, so you are not alone, however scientists engineers and physicists first off understand the meaning and usages of half and would never blink much less question and not a chance in hell argue over it like you did and unlike laymen can show you how easy it is to make those poles look like that wihtout a plane LOL.

    Dozens of pieces? There are several million pieces that add up to a 30 ft high pile and you aint even got enough to fill a ucking pick up truck, damn this is quite the comedy.

    I'm sure much like your fellow layment you are very dismayed, just like the invention of the telephone dismayed laymen, but not scientists engineers and physicists.

    Sure it proved it, here I will post another controlled test clip, since maybe you did nt see the wing was severed from the fuselage on the previous clip.



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    wack! and off come a da wings. :deadhorse:



    and then there is the invincible light pole mower of 911


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    If you want commentary then the best way to achive that end is stop posting fantasy and pushing it as reality.
     
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    WHACK like a red hot knife through melted butter! :deadhorse:
     

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