Muslims and our way of life?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by bradt93, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    I was right about you - you don't understand the FIRST thing about the bad parts of Islam. You are part of the problem - you give the barbarity of Islamic law a complete pass.
    But I'm fair, so I'll give you a chance to redeam yourself: Please tell us the top 3 most barbaric things about Sharia, off the top of your head, MVictorP. Thanks.
     
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    If I didn't know better I'd say you value barbaric Sharia Law over the more civilized Western Secular democratic law.
     
  3. bradt93

    bradt93 Well-Known Member

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    Um, wrong, but keep thinking like that and you won't win another national election. Every election has always been about the economy and Trump had the better policies, what am I talking about? Hillary didn't have any policies to help the economy.
     
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    In what way?
     
  5. Just A Man

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    Any religion that teaches killing humans is a bad religion -- period.
     
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    Where is your country? Kazakhstan?
     
  7. MVictorP

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    Kanuckistan.
     
  8. MVictorP

    MVictorP Well-Known Member

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    In the way that we, the Occident, are much worse. The number of victims they do is litterally dwarfed into insignificance by what we did, to this day.

    They're amateurs, really.
     
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    I'd like to see your math.
     
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    What a load of crap. You don't know how they are raised. You don't even speak Arabic. Have you ever even been out of the US?
     
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    Ok, good one. I laughed. A little. :grin:
     
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  12. MVictorP

    MVictorP Well-Known Member

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    Well, your actual nation is built on a genocide, for starters.
     
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    It does when the people who attack you are doing so because you attacked them first.
    These people are taking the war you started back to you, so attacks on America by people you have attacked are legitimate.
    Of course, I believe they should stick to attacking military targets because killing innocent civilians makes than as bad as you.
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    Oh, no, the stupid Barbary pirates argument.
    You do realise many of those people were Christians and Jews, don't you?
    Oh, you just spout crap without checking the facts.
    Please be careful as I wouldn't want you to look like a pathetic pea brained moron without a clue as that wouldn't be very nice for you.
     
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    No one can win hearts and minds by killing a family. You'll create a lot more people who want Americans dead, but no friends.
     
  16. Mircea

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    Um. why can't the Western World leave Muslims alone?

    I mean the Shi'a Iraqis did not vote for Sunni Muslim King Faisal, rather it was the Brits who rammed Faisal down everyone's throats.Then the US murders King Faisal II using General Qasim, whom the US later murdered in a coup that would install the Baathists into power, paving the way for Saddam Hussein's rise.

    Let's see...the US tries to overthrow the Syrian government in 1956 for the heinous crime of Declaring Neutrality While Non-White and non-Christian.

    Then the US tried to murder Nasser of Egypt for the heinous crime of Declaring Neutrality While non-White and non-Christian.

    The US murdered President Shermarke of Somalia in 1969 for refusing to give away its oil, leading to the installation Mohammed Barre as dictator who fleeced the US and ended up fleeing, allowing Mohammed Adid to rise to power.

    The US murdered President Daud of Afghanistan in 1978 for the heinous crime of Declaring Neutrality While non-White and non-Christian, leading to the rise of a socialist government that was subsequently overthrown by the military who were then overthrown by a pro-Soviet group, resulting a civil war.

    There's Gaddafi of Libya whom the US backed in a coup in 1969, and then protected Gaddafi against three separate coup attempts, only to invade Libya and depose Gaddafi later.

    Are you writing any of this down?

    They don't exactly have six carrier battle groups and two amphibious assault groups supported by a large air force that is located in numerous foreign States. You do the best you can with what you've got.

    They don't hate your way of life, buy they to hate your constant meddling in their political, social and economic affairs.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the Muslims have the same question. Why did we invade Iraq and caused hundred of thousands of death again?? Why did we steal land to give to Israel and left the Palestinians out in the cold? Involving ourselves in other people business doesn't help us....at all.
     
  18. Mircea

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    There's nothing racist about it. Islam is not compatible with Democracy, in case you hadn't guessed.

    That's what the US government claims, but in reality Bin Laden had always been operating out of Pakistan.


    Joshua 6:20-21 When the trumpets sounded, the army shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the men gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city. They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.


    Or it could be that people are tired of living in totalitarian dictatorships or monarchies, which are what more than half of all majority Muslim-States are.
     
  19. MVictorP

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    When taken to the extreme, no religion is compatible with democracy. When one is enlightened, rationale has no more hold on him.

    And who put these clowns in charge? It looks to me as if the occident makes everything in its power to fight secularism in the ME, beginning with Mossadegh and finishing with Assad.
     
  20. Mircea

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    I see your Koranic Verses and raise you Bible Verses:


    Deuteronomy 17:1 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

    Deuteronomy 13:6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again. 12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt.

    Numbers 31:1 Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 31:2 "Take full vengeance for the sons of Israel on the Midianites; afterward you will be gathered to your people." 13:3 Moses spoke to the people, saying, "Arm men from among you for the war, that they may go against Midian to execute the LORD'S vengeance on Midian. 31:4 Send into battle a thousand men from each of the tribes of Israel." 31:5...31:7 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. 31:8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba--the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 31:9 The sons of Israel captured the women of Midian and their little ones; and all their cattle and all their flocks and all their goods they plundered. 31:10...31:12 They brought the captives and the prey and the spoil to Moses, and to Eleazar the priest and to the congregation of the sons of Israel, to the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by the Jordan opposite Jericho...13:14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army--the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds--who returned from the battle. 13:15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 13:16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 13:18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

    Luke 19:27-28 "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me." After Jesus had said this, He went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.

    Jesus was equally barbaric:

    Deuteronomy 28-53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God Jesus has given you.


    2 Kings 2:23-25 Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.

    2 Kings 23:20-25 He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them…. He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD’s Temple.

    Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.
     
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    They all are at some point. Got anything else?
     
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    Have A Day:bye:
     
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    The USA also bombed Christians in Serbia in the 90's because of alleged crimes against Muslims.
    Got anything to say about that?
     
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    Ah, smug comment in place of the answer you're unable to give.
     
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    Oh, those with short memories using history to skew BS into truth but, unlike Rumpelstiltskin, you skills are somewhat limited.

    You might recall the US government was still anti communist at that time and communism hadn't quite been flushed into the toilet of stupid ideas so the very idea of slobby dan and his commie pals running a country was pretty abhorrent to the US.
    The fact the other side was Muslim had nothing to do with much because you hadn't decided Muslims were your enemy at that point, as we can also note by the US arming the glorious heroic freedom fighters in Afghanistan up to and beyond 1989.

    Yep, those brave freedom fighter that transformed into terrorists when the US invaded.
    Back to Rumpelstiltskin but this time spun by the US propaganda machine.
     

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