More die from drug overdose than by guns

I think its fair to say neither of us is going to change our opinion

 

Sure. So cancer causing flu pills arent dangerous drugs? Youre just an ideologue with an uninformed opinion. Weed is not s dangerous drug. It has less side effects then half the damn cold medicine in the drug store, yet, because i cant make cold pills tbe government lets me use them. I can grow weed though, so of course they could never let that happen.

You already pay for people who are stuck using massively expensive drugs that are big government supported and in some cases mandated.

Thats the point. You wouldnt be paying into a system for pain management if you plebes would let me grow my own damn pain meds right out back.

Youre a big government endorsement is duly ****ing noted, and i will refer back to this post in every instance of you claiming youre against big government in the future. What a joke. Hypocrisy at its worst.

 

http://www.therecoverycouncil.org/

"Money Farms"

"Meet a dealer service"

That's all they are. They have over taken out county. We had a dentist, a gazette for another county, and a load of other things, all being replaced by these.

 

I don't know which legal substances will cause cancer

If you do then we should stop using them too

But mind warping drugs are definately harmful to most people who use them

 

Detox facilities?

 

That doesn't release the gun owners' need to pop caps in asses.

 

Most of it isn't detox, most of it is over the counter Suboxone. The ones who go to the detox "house" (lol, you should see this building, it's a total ****ing joke.) Go there to hook their dealers up with new clients. We have 117 different "Recovery counsels" in our county alone, our over dose/General crime rates have done nothing but soar, right along with the counties bordering us with the same problem. (The crime has a lot to do with the dealers who came up from Cincinnati.)

 

That's not at all a factual statement.

Things we've proven can't kill you:

Smoking weed
Smoking DMT

Neither of these substances have any long term impact on the body. Neither will kill you through their use. OD's on both are impossible.

Now we could compare this outcome to something like, idk, Vitamin B-12, which does kill people. Alcohol, which does kill people. Tobacco, which does kill people. Water, which does kill people. Caffeine, which does kill people. Trees, hey, trees fall on people every year. Bricks, someone out there is beating someone else to death with a brick right now.

 

I cannot fathom over 100 in one county.
Suboxone is only used to treat opiate/opioid addiction. It is also extremely expensive, even if you have great insurance. Few doctors can prescribe it. People aren't commonly over dosing on Suboxone.

 

Mac, you and I share a lot in our political leanings. However, you need to educate yourself on the medicinal benefits of marijuana. Canabidiol,CBD,which is one of the many canabinoids in the plant does not produce a high but provides relief for PSTD, many forms of neurological pain, and many other neurological disorders. It is a damned shame that funding for research is difficult because of "weed" being illegal. I suffest you read "Stoned ", by Dr. David Cassarett, a pain mitigation doctor who began skeptical of the benefits of marihuana, but after doing the research became an advocate and wrote this book.

 

Its quite clear beyond your uninformed opinion you have nothing to add, so stop replying and wasting our time.

 

Won't hear the left screaming to ban drugs anytime in our lifetimes...

 

Parts of it have some medicinal uses and as a whole it is an analgesic, and can help the appetites of those on chemo, etc.

That said, it is still a toxin when used recreationally, severe one when over used, like EVERY recreational drug.

Alcohol has medicinal used and health benefits, too...but.....

 

Smoking pot has been found to lower IQ in adolecents which robs them of their full potential in life

As for DMT any chemical that is compared to LSD is something I would stay away from if I were a drug user

But in my opinion dangerous drug users are incapable of exercising good judgment in the first place

 

Don't be so sure

Twins study finds no evidence that marijuana lowers IQ in teens
Roughly half of Americans use marijuana at some point in their lives, and many start as teenagers. Although some studies suggest the drug could harm the maturing adolescent brain, the true risk is controversial. Now, in the first study of its kind, scientists have analyzed long-term marijuana use in teens, comparing IQ changes in twin siblings who either used or abstained from marijuana for 10 years. After taking environmental factors into account, the scientists found no measurable link between marijuana use and lower IQ.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/01/twins-study-finds-no-evidence-marijuana-lowers-iq-teens

 

I don't know everything and may be missing something when it comes to pot

But in my opinion any benefit is outweighed by the harm of a society that is high on drugs

 

I am not "sure" of anything but a previous study found that there is brain damage to teens and pre-teens from smoking pot

https://www.forbes.com/sites/travis...oking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/#7e64fc9c2f5b

 

The only part of healthcare that the government replaces are the greedy and bloated private health insurers that are entirely responsible for that whopping 20% overhead.

Replace that with Single Payer like Medicare and then that 20% overhead disappears while the rest of the system continues to operate without the inflationary pressure of the greedy Wall Street Casino Bosses.

 

Extremist alt right disinformation.

Zurich authorities closed the park and the police now arrest and deport anyone living illegally in Switzerland.

 

There are no horror stories of endless waiting lists for care as there is in the singlepayer government run VA hospitals.

Insurance companies are no more greedy than anyone else in America.

Doctors make a lot of money but that causes envy on the left also.

What they dont seem to mind are greedy politicians who spend the publlic's money like it was their own

Or petty burocrats who sit on their hands all day and do nothing constructive

I know many liberals have convinced themselves that healthcare is special and calls for special treatment but your grudge against the private sector goes way beyond that

 

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No ****, they only take them for their monthly drug test. Or if they don't have any cash for heroin. It's free for these people, they don't pay a dime, I know, I've had to treat quite a number of them.

These money farms have done nothing but spread. They've taken up entire shopping strips.

 

Ok, are adolescents of age?

Are we planning on making pot legal for kids? (Outside of medical uses such as treating cases of epilepsy)

Ask any teenager you know which is easier to get right now, weed or alcohol, and tell them not to worry you won't say anything. I would almost guarantee you they say weed is far easier to get. Dealers don't worry about ID's or people buying for others. All keeping it illegal does is give dealers the chance to push other products onto them.

 

I think both of your sides hate freedom.

 

That's a horrible comparison.

LSD builds up on the spine, can cause flashback trips, and can cause perma-trips.

DMT is the substance released when you dream, its in every living thing on earth, its extracted from grass and Mimosa Hostillis. The psychological effects (I have done DMT, I got the chance in college, did a lot of research on it) are far more extreme but they always lack any notion of terror which could develop from LSD usage. Tens of my friends had used it, yet I've never heard a bad story about it, and I've never experienced one. The scariest part is the same feeling everyone shares when it feels like you're being sucked through a galactic straw after you take the 3rd inhale.

There has never been an Overdose related to DMT. DMT makes you fall asleep for about 10 minutes; although it can feel much longer than that. The trip itself is thousands of times more profound than acid, without the side effects of acid use. That's it, after that 10 minutes, you may have a little bit of the "Ripples" for about an hour. (looking at things and they look as though they are rippling ) There's no addiction rate.