Serbia Will Sue Nato For 1999 Bombings And The Affects Of The Depleted Uranium

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    When Serbs ethnic cleanse 100.000's of people by kicking them out their country into an other country,... than how on earth is this still an internal affair?
    What about what the Serbs did in Croatia, Bosnia and Slovenia.
    Seems somebody overstretched their luck by a heck of a lot.
     
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    D0nRumataEst0rsky Banned

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    There are still fools who believe the government of the United States when it comes to invading other countries ...

    This is the book for thinking people.
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    Please explain how bombing the crap out of someone saved them.
    That one I'd love to hear.
     
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    Heh? You like a Jewish people, answer the question by asking. Albanians from Kosovo started that war, and not Serbians:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War
    So you are talking nonsense. Albanians are a headache in EU- smuggling drugs, commitng robberies.
    And yes, it was internal affair of Yugoslavia, as it was on its territory and since Yugoslavia did not attack NATO coutries it was a US crime to bomb Yugoslavia.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The people who are suing are the ones who were saved from the people we bombed. Sit on a mass grave and contemplate this.
     
  6. notme

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    you're moving the goalpost.
    Let's go back to assert that indeed the Serbs made it not an internal theme, because they kicking people across their bordes to an other country, while destroying their passports, drivers licences, to even birth certificates to be able to deny they ever lived in Kosovo.

    And than we got the same Serbs causing the same troubles in Croatia, Bosnia and Slovenia.

    How do you think this works on the PR for Serbs with your "but they started it"?
     
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    It works pretty well. Historically Kosovo is a Serbian place, and not Albanian. Albanians migrated there in huge numbers in 1970s and started to reproduce like rabbits in the efforts to push away serbians from there. And albanians decided that they want Kosovo only for themselves. So, Serbs had every reasons to kick out separatist albanians from Kosovo back to Albania. When someone rent your apartment and then says that it belongs to him, it is purely relation of the tenant and the owner, but not the neighbores. And once again, to solve internal problems on their own territory one does not need to ask permissions from the UN, but to do something in other countries- one need to have a permission. But for the cannibals from White House no permission is needed to intervene in other countries. US wants always to play a role of the world police and instead of order produce big BS.
     
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    That is the Serbian way of rewriting history. It's a historic fact that the Serbs were destroying the passports, drivers licences, to even birth certificates to be able to deny they ever lived in Kosovo.

    You're simply not allowed to ethnic cleanse. Not even in your own territory. And the Serbs were removing the nationality of an entire ethnicity and kicking them out of the country. Now, those are 2 more things you are not allowed to do.
     
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    Just because you spout ignorance - does not make that ignorance true :)
     
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    You are trumpeting false narrative. You have not studied the war in Yugoslavia from an objective perspective.
     
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    Health problems associated with depleted uranium
    DU is a potential health hazard if it enters the body, such as through embedded fragments, contaminated wounds, and inhalation or ingestion. Simply riding in a vehicle with DU weapons or DU shielding will not expose a Servicemember to significant amounts of DU or external radiation.

    The potential for health effects from internal exposure is related to the amount of DU that enters a person’s body. If DU enters the body, it may remain in the body. Studies show high doses may especially affect the kidneys.

    So far no health problems associated with DU exposure have been found in Veterans exposed to DU. Researchers and clinicians continue to monitor the health of these Veterans. Go to the Department of Defense's Depleted Uranium (DU) Library to learn about results of medical and scientific research and other DU topics.

    Health concerns?
    If you are concerned about depleted uranium exposure during service, talk to your health care provider or local VA Environmental Health Coordinator.

    Veterans who served in the Gulf War, Bosnia, OEF, OIF, or OND may be eligible for the Depleted Uranium Follow-up Program at the Baltimore VA Medical Center, a program to screen and monitor health problems associated with depleted uranium exposure.

    https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/depleted_uranium/
     
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    Appeal to authority fallacy does not make a claim true.
     
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    It is not the Serbian way of re-writing history, it is history which you can find easily, for example, in Wiki:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo
    And talking about deprivation of passpots etc is only an attempt of US government to cover the crime of bombing Yugoslavia. I may say the same- it is a historic fact that Albanians destroyed churches, museums in Kosovo, I provided you with the video link before.
     
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    I dunno....handling ammo is quite a bit different than breathing into your lungs for an extended period of time depleted uranium dust like... for weeks? . I think they have a good case. If they can prove their cancer rates.

    As to our soldiers being safe handling depleted uranium.. I would say probably is? Exposure length looks to be key and what type of exposure.... I mean the US government didn't even admit cigarettes were dangerous until 1964... So.. Ah.. Yeah. Probably is.

    As early as 1997, British Army doctors warned the Ministry of Defence that exposure to depleted uranium increased the risk of developing lung, lymph and brain cancer, and recommended a series of safety precautions.[85] According to a report issued summarizing the advice of the doctors, "Inhalation of insoluble uranium dioxide dust will lead to accumulation in the lungs with very slow clearance—if any. … Although chemical toxicity is low, there may be localised radiation damage of the lung leading to cancer." The report warns that "All personnel … should be aware that uranium dust inhalation carries a long-term risk … [the dust] has been shown to increase the risks of developing lung, lymph and brain cancers

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

     
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    Justice would be for the Serbs to get a settlement, and then be forced to hand it over to the survivors and families of the dead of their Srebrenica Massacre. Yes, we acknowledge you got screwed over, but if you weren't so busy killing innocent civilians yourselves, you wouldn't have gotten bombed.
     
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    That is the generally accepted narrative. It's only the Greek and Serbian narrative than the Serbs did nothing.
     
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    You call the international court on Yugoslavia a fallacy? lol
    How desperate.
     
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    Human Rights Watch says the Serbs were ethnic cleansing people on a large scale. And the Bulgarians and Germans say they knew beforehand of those plans (operation horseshoe). The International Criminal Tribunal verdict supports this as well.

    To just blame,... it was the US government... that's just rewriting history and claim to be innocent.
     
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    No narratives that I am aware of claim the Serb's did nothing. That the narrative created by one side of a conflict is generally accepted by that side of the conflict is no surprise :)

    Since the narrative you have ingested comes from only one side (a side that is well known for it's lies, propaganda and creation of false narrative) it is not surprising that your comments are so biased.
     
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    I did no such thing. I called your appeal to authority fallacy what it is ... a fallacy.
    Just because some ICC Judge made a decision, does not make the basis for that decision truth. Do you have any knowledge of the evidence ?

    Further .. even if the Serb's did some things that were later classified as "bad".. how does that justify US/NATO actions. You have given no such justification.

    You do not show any knowledge of any significant details relating to the war in Yugoslavia from an objective perspective.

    Diverging a bit, just out of curiosity, why is the USA not a member of the ICC - an organization that is so reputable in your opinion?
     
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    We get it, the US is evil to you and anything they do is evil.

    People with this mentality crack me up because they are the same people that get angry at the US when we do nothing as well.
     
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    That narrative has been uphold by an international court.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can whine, snivel and cry like a baby till the cows come home if you like. This will not change the fact that the US has done some evil things.

    What is a bizarre mentality is you thinking that because the Establishment does evil things that this makes the entire US evil.

    You then go on in some mindless strawman rant - attributing the characteristics of "some people who get mad" to me.

    What a pathetic lack of an argument.

    Perhaps your version of "patriotism" is to get down on your knees and beg to give up your individual rights and freedoms because the Gov't has made it your "Patriotic Duty" because some terrorists flew a few planes into a few buildings.

    Then when I tell you that Obama/Clinton have been arming and supporting those same terrorists (Al Qaeda) .. you cry ...that is anti-American .. you are no Patriot.

    There is nothing more "un-patriotic" than to criticize those who are fighting against a US Gov't gone bad.
     
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    One that the US does not recognize as legitimate.

    What narrative are you referring to ?
     
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    To go question the narrative of the international court, the Germans, the Bulgarians and the Americans....
    At what point do you think you look like those utter ridiculous tin foiled hat people?

    You're only supporting the narrative of a bunch of neo nazi like Serbs and Greeks.
     

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