Russia says US-led coalition colludes with ISIS in Syria

They don't just "think so," they're simply not Arabs. Words have specific meaning for a reason, you know.

 

I am from Siberia. We are caucasians, mongoloids, christians, muslims and buddhists, but all of us are Russians. It's a mental condition. Arabs are the same. If you'd see a naked Kurd could you differ him from a Persian? They both cut heads like any other Arab. That's I mean.

 

No, I probably wouldn't be able to differentiate a Kurd from a Persian, because they're both Iranian.

And neither Kurds or Persians are Arabs, anymore than you're a Cossack.

(Shot in the dark, I'm assuming that you're not a Cossack.)

 

The rebel opposition in Syria is made up of Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, ISIS and others of the same ilk.

That is who the US is supporting.

 

There are many more groups than that, and that's just a plain fact. Even a cursory study of the conflict would relay this to you.

So study it.

 

If Kurds live in Iran then they are Iranian. If Kurds live in Turkey then they are Turks. If Kurds live in Russia (they live in Russia), then they are Russians.

I born and live in old Siberian city Omsk. This city was found by Cossacks. Check it in Internet. But Omsk population don't like Cossacks. My grandfather was a Cossack. But he had blew up a Cossack's Cathedral. Do you understand anything in that Russians? But you believe that you understand something about Arabs. It's the same misconception.

 

I have studied this issue. It is you that thought the FSA was some non Islamist Jihadist group and you were wrong.

From the Defense Intelligence Agency early on in the conflict in 2012.

https://levantreport.com/tag/robert-ford/

These are all Islamist Jihadists = No moderates.

VP-Biden speaking at Harvard:

https://mideastshuffle.com/2014/10/04/biden-turks-saudis-uae-funded-and-armed-al-nusra-and-al-qaeda/

In his comments Biden goes on to say how Saudi Arabia was pouring hundreds of millions towards Al Qaeda and other Islamist Jihadists.

Syrian archbishop criticises US for ‘siding with al-Qaeda’ http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/new...ishop-criticises-us-for-siding-with-al-qaeda/

No Moderate rebels according to the Catholic Archbishop of Syria.


If you had been following this conflict in any detail you would know that even the NYT reported the lack of moderate rebels.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/w...create-dilemma-for-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=

This reporting was prior to the "moderate rebel lie"/false narrative which became necessary when ISIS got went off it's leash and went into Iraq in 2014. The mainstream media quickly forgot it's own reporting in support of the State Department lies, false narrative and misrepresentation. (the lie that you ingested).

 

Thing don't work that way in the real world. The fact that Kurds have Turkish citizenship doesn't preclude them from feeling different or even separate from their countrymen.

Awfully ironic, coming from the man who claims that Kurds and Persians are Arabs.

 

Many of them were, or claimed to be.

But you're right, non-Islamism doesn't carry a lot of weight in the Arab world. That's why we switched to predominately working with the Kurds over the last year and a half or so.

But I think that the West needs to make it's peace with Islamism. The Iranian Islamists are here to stay, and we should work with them. The Muslim Brotherhood is here to stay, and we should work with them.

But conflating all Islamists or even Jihadists with Al-Qaeda or ISIS is wholly simplistic and will ultimately lead only to more pain. The Arabs are going to be very religious for a very long time. Arab Nationalism failed them, and they all know it.

 

We have been playing a game, but it has been to use isis to help take assad down and implode what is left of Syria. Meddling in the affairs of a sovereign nation, uninvited. Why would the US keep taking down nations over there? Iraq. Libya. Now Syria. The international law accepted post ww2 which our ancestors had a large part in writing is being broken with every invasion, whether direct or covert. We made the world less safe. We generated millions of muslim refugees flooding into Europe, creating social instability. This enabled murderous terrorist attacks from refugees and opportunists which come in with refugees.

So yes America is playing a game. And it is the most evil game, turning us into the Dark Empire, imperialistic, and not serving the interests of the majority of the American people. It looks like insanity, and yet there are certain reasons for what appears to be insanity. For it only appears to be insanity if it was being done in the interest of the American people. But given this insane foreign policy is in the interests of some elites, benefitting them potentially now or in the future, there is method to madness. The most evil manner in which to make money is part and parcel to neoliberalism. Moral free capitalism. We are destroying the middle east an murdering millions, in the interest of some elites growing their great wealth.

 

What elites are to gain "great wealth" out of our supposed mission of "imploding Syria?"

The truth is that our interest in Syria is simply to get a seat at the negotiating table, to ensure that the pre-2011 order of things does not return at the barrel of Iranian guns.

The supposed ISIS connection is a distraction from the real question. What you're saying about American foreign policy is arguable, but when you couch it in completely non-factual views about reality, we have nowhere to go.

There are isolationists that I like, like Dan Carlin, and I think that they're not unreasonable people. But if we want to have that conversation, let's have it without the hysteria, otherwise you and I will never establish points of contact.

 

1) Stop pretending as American, you are NOT.
2) The US works DIRECTLY with PKK not its allies. YPG=PKK
3)Yes, the US arm and train BOTH terrorist organizations. Trump has just signed the necessary bill to send heavy weapons to PKK which is on DoD designated terror groups list.
4)Turkiye will get over it once the US gets over our bombs blasting right at their proxies' asses.

 

The distinction between the PKK and the fighters in Syria is a tenuous one, sure.

We would have loved to have moderate Sunni Arab allies. They crumbled and fragmented, many of them joining Islamist groups. We would have loved for the Turks to solve the problem, they didn't.

So, we have the Kurds.

 

Bilal Erdogan handled the stolen Syrian oil. He would buy it from ISIS and pay for it with military equipment. He would then sell the oil at a low price and ship it via his brothers ships to nations such as Japan, Israel, Ukraine, etc. It was well known at the time, and I think he had to leave Italy because of it.

 

The US policy is to keep the war and killings going on in Syria until they get what they want ...and the hell with what the Syrian people want. Right from the start, whenever the terrorists were being defeated by the Syrian army, then either Israel or the American coalition would look for some excuse to bomb Assad's forces so it could even out the playing field. This way the war could keep going on and on and on.

 

Right, that's what the Russians claimed.

Whether or not you're that gullible is another matter.

 

It is not the irony only. I mean that all these people are the same. I believe it isn't necessary to intervene there. Let them cut off heads themselves as they did it thousands years before. It's a respectable custom. Why do we try impose ours? Our customs are not better.

 

Wrong.. It was George Haswani... who travels on a Russian passport and is married to an Alawite woman.

Oil middleman between Syria and Isil is new target for EU sanctions ...

www.telegraph.co.uk › News › World News › Islamic State
Mar 7, 2015 - The listing of George Haswani, the owner of HESCO engineering company, sheds more light on financial links between Syria's regime and the ...
George Haswani | Counter Extremism Project

https://www.counterextremism.com/extremists/george-haswani
George Haswani is a U.S.- and EU-sanctioned businessman in Syria who stands accused of acting on behalf of the Assad government and serving “as a middleman for oil purchases by the Syrian regime from ISIL,” also known as ISIS. ... “The alleged activities of Haswani and HESCO in ..

 

Yeah yeah sure... "YOU" have Kurds... It should be something to pretend like American while not being able to put together words to make a meaningful sentence in English... hahaha... Here; play with this

 

Primary reason for the "even-out" is not keeping the war going on and on but is to make the demographics altered accordingly; just like ISIS handing over lands to PKK almost in everywhere ISIS confronts with PKK. Just few action photos and footage showing masked men firing to some distance is more than enough to make it appear there's "clashes" in between these two motherfeckers while in reality all they do is to "switch" sides while the US is watching.

 

So tell me then. What is the difference between an Islamist Jihadist = someone who hates individual rights and freedoms - who wants strict sharia to be the law of the land/political system; someone who wants to force their religious beliefs on others through physical violence (law) - and/or Holy Jihad.

And Al Qaeda/ISIS ?

2) We were arming and supporting (in conjunction with Saud, Qatar and others) Al Qaeda and ISIS and other Islamist Jihadists of the same ilk .. such as these folks who are neither Al Qaeda or ISIS.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/c...om-anti-government-protestors-in-syria-50104/

I understand that you are being pummeled with false narratives from documentaries - such as the latest National Geographic 2 hr documentary ... but this is propaganda.

The above article is from prior to armed insurrection. Initially there were moderates during the protest movement but the movement was quickly taken over by the radical Islamist's who were going around telling Christians to either join the protest movement or leave the country - and killing them.

By the time armed insurrection broke out in late 2011 the extremists were in charge.

Assad was no saint and the people wanted change but, the last thing they wanted was the Islamist Jihadists to take over.

There are then 2 sides in this war ... there was no "moderate middle".

The whole call to Jihad in Syria was on the basis of the fight against "Secularism". Syria is a "Secular" Muslim nation. No Strict Sharia, Alcohol and Music and Dancing in bars, no stoning adulterers, women wear skirts and normal bathing suites, they do not need a mans permission to be educated and can drive a car .. and so on.

The Islamist "hate" secularism. While the Islamist Jihadists rebels (including Al Qaeda and ISIS, Salafi and so on) are Sunni - 60% of Assad's regular army is Sunni. Not all Sunni's are Islamist's.

There is a whole lot of the people of Syria that are fighting for Assad and who support Assad in this battle. The reason for this is because they do not want the Islamist Jihadists to win. They want to keep their individual rights and freedoms and do no want strict sharia theocracy.

The other side are the Islamist Jihadists who hate individual rights and freedoms and want Syria to be a Strict Sharia Theocracy. We have been arming and supporting the Islamist Jihadists.

Virginia Senator Thanks Syrian President Bashar Al Assad for Saving the Lives of Christians
Open Letter of U.S. Senator Richard H. Black to President Bashar al-Assad Acknowledges US Support to Terrorists

http://www.globalresearch.ca/virgin...ad-for-saving-the-lives-of-christians/5384338

This is Rand Paul on the CNN Sunday morning program "State of the Union"

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2...-my-son-into-that-mess-on-the-crisis-in-iraq/

Here we have a Congressman stating directly - "we armed Al Qaeda". One would think that this might be "news". Apparently the US arming Al Qaeda is not news because the mainstream media response was -- Silence.

By arming these radical Islamist Jihadists (in conjunction with Saud, Qatar and others) we created the worst humanitarian crisis so far this decade - 500,000 dead and counting -, the refugee crisis which is spreading the plague of Islamist radicalism, and created the modern incarnation of ISIS.

Prior to Russia getting involved both Iran and Syria asked the US to put differences aside for the moment and join forces to take out ISIS. Obama refused.

 

Violence broke out in Syria in Feb 2011 when Syrian troops in Dera started shooting protesters.

 

There's a shock.
The US supported ISIS, even armed them with US made weapons funded by the US taxpayer.
America is clearly the toilet of the world.

 

They are the source of CHAOS and EVIL in this world !

 

What if the russians are lying?