GAY TEACHER READS HOMOSEXUAL STORY TO 3RD GRADERS

No one here has said that it is wrong or used "abnormal" outside a statistical context for waiting to have sex after your married.

 

By this logic, then we should not be teaching them about racial differences either.

 

Non sequitur mate. Good try though!

 

Actually that is becoming more common as well, as young people are avoiding the legal route of marriage. Ironically enough, although not necessarily on the first relationship, many are forming actual marriages. After all a marriage isn't a piece of paper or a religious ceremony. It is how you live your lives together, working together to build a stable household. It is becoming more common to create these households without holding a ceremony or getting the government paper.

Additionally, there is a perception issues occurring here as far as frequency goes. Is homosexuality actually on the rise, or are more homosexuals who were always there becoming more visible? There is a big difference.

 

Not non sequiter at all. It is a parallel to show the fallacy of the logic of the original statement. Good try though.

 

Yes God forbid some gay couple makes it unbearable for good Christian folk to actually exercise a conscience. And I bet the good Christians should also turn away fornicators (oops unplanned pregnancy), thieves, bearers of false witness etc. too, wouldn't that be something. Why such Christian virtue indeed.

 

Kind of a problem, given all the variation on what parents want taught, isn't it? Hell you can't even get an agreement on what history is to be taught and which is to be ignored.

The same thing happened when it came to the rights of blacks and interracial marriages. There were many court rulings before there were any laws made

Why do the rights of the 35% trump the rights of the 2%? They don't, and we started correcting that when we went through the Civil Rights era. It goes both ways. Individuals have rights, and they do not get taken away simply because one is part of a minority.

Nowhere in the constitution did the Founding Father give men the right to stick a dick up a vagina, either. Simply making something illegal does not mean that rights are not violated. We violated the rights of blacks for a long time before we struck down the laws.

Incorrect. Equal rights laws do this. If it is against a given Christian's belief that his religion forbids him to do business with a member of another race then he is forced against his religion there as well. The granting specifically of SSM did not suddenly make this imposition upon any given religion. Now personally, I think non-discrimination laws are essentially the same as Jim Crow laws, albeit in the opposite direction. Both sets of laws violate the business owner's Freedom of Association and Private Property rights. Under Jim Crow laws, a business could not allow integration, even if he wanted to. Under current laws, a business owner can not allow segregation, even if he wanted to. There is a difference between what is right and wrong and what should be legal and illegal in a freedom based society.

Which means absolutely nothing. The fact that the same arguments used against civil rights and interracial marriage are being used against the LBGT community and SSM. The parallel is there, whether people like it or not.

Again, incorrect. My opinion on what businesses should and should not be able to do aside, simply being required to make the cake (to use the example) in no way implies support. I may feel that paying taxes is against my religion, but paying them because it is the law doesn't mean that I support taxes. As to Peter, I believe that Jesus outranks him, and he said, "Render unto Ceasear.." And yes I know I spelled the name wrong, but I am pressed for time and the spell check doesn't correct it and no time to look it up.

Given that I will have to deal with the rest of the post later.

 

Now you need to prove humans have these "inclinations" in such a degree that those "inclinations" are normal in modern society.

 

So a normal human being is someone who has killed people? In the statistical makeup of humanity, humans who have killed other humans are in the normal range?

You have a source for that?

Even in our culture, it is extremely abnormal to wait for marriage to have sex and to only have sex with one person in your life. That is deviant, abnormal sexual behavior.

 

I get you now.

 

Romans 13:1-7 I think might also apply here as well.

1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but from God; the powers that be are ordained by God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God, and those who resist shall receive for themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same,
4 for he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid, for he beareth not the sword in vain; for he is the minister of God, an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Therefore ye must be subject not only for wrath, but also for conscience’ sake.
6 For, for this cause pay ye tribute also, for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due, custom to whom custom, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.

 

I don't necessarily support "lessons on diversity" that's the level of pc I find nauseating. Schools can and should foster tolerance by their actions and how they deal with day to day issues. That is not a snow job, its helping kids become better adults.

Yes parents and families are the main model for their kids, but they aren't the only influence. 5 days a week for 6 to 8 hours a day in school has some impact.

 

I never said 1 is more or less recognized over the other. Merely they are both recognized.

 

So you want to treat gays as 2nd or 3rd class citizens. Then based on the bolded, that is exactly how Christians should be treated that have the same attitude.
There was nothing being promoted towards homosexuals. That seems to be some bigoted misinterpretation. Reading a story is not promoting anything.

Every lifestyle is an alternative lifestyle.
Single lifestyle
Married lifestyle, hetero and now gay
Divorced lifestyle
Cohabitation lifestyle
Commune lifestyle

Many many alternative lifestyles.

 

Which is an irrelevant point since government marriage is the gold standard for interpersonal relationships and supercedes contractual arrangements. For example, regardless of any binding contracts you may have in place with your partner if the state does not recognize you as "married," all that goes out the window when it comes to things like probate and medical decision making. The state no more "recognizes" an interpersonal contract than it does any other kind of contract where existing law takes precedence.

Hence, we need to eliminate state marriage and let the citizens arrange their personal lives in a manner they see fit.

 

Really? Kids won't know anything about sexuality before leaving school? I'm assuming you mean HS graduation. Everyone of them will know about sexuality, sometime around Jr High.

 

I understand all that, maybe that is one reason fed gov't is involved. So one couple leaving for another state can have the same constitutional rights. Marriage that is, not a civil contract.

 

Yes, there is nothing wrong.
But per the definition of abnormal, it probably is abnormal. I think it is more normal to have sex prior to marriage. And has been since man invented marriage. IMO.

 

Do you really think homosexuality is an alternative lifestyle? Do you think people sit back and think, now let me see, should I be homosexual, or straight? I guess I'll chose homosexual.

Come on man, that's not how it works.

 

Be sure to quote everyone in the post so they know you are talking about them and they can respond. I would tag them all if I knew how.

 

How about interracial marriages?
And how is it Non Sequitur?

 

This dude in the video is a d-head. If my kid came home wanting to blow another kid because of this turd, then I'd beat the **** out of the teacher (with a lawyer, of course).

 

Hate to burst your little bubble here, but the gay men around Florida are, on average, FAR more physically fit than the majority of males in this country. And in the areas they have moved into around Miami, property values have RISEN faster than many areas because they put more energy into keeping their property value up.

Oh, and by the way, the most profitable company in the world is run by a gay man.

Just say'n - you might want to update your BS routine.

 

The federal government is not involved in marriage laws - it has always been a state issue. And the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution already guarantees "the same constitutional rights." There is no reason at all for government at any level to be involved in the institution of marriage.

 

What did I say that isn't true?

You really aren't that special. In fact, thousands of gay people are more successful than you and millions of people more liberal than you are more successful. Are you a failed conservative if so many liberals are more successful than you are?