I suspect this is where Trump/Russia collusion will be found in the end

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  1. upside222

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    Why? Mueller is a GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE! It is illegal for a government employee to release private tax returns. This doesn't just apply to IRS employees, it applies to ALL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.

    If Mueller gets the tax return it is incumbent on him to keep it private. And if it leaks because of his incompetence then *HE* is in legal jeopardy. And he likely won't get off as leniently as Obama did with Lois Lerner!
     
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    This is the guy that claims GOP gerrymandering a district can result in a GOP win even if more Democrats vote in the district.

    He's an idiot! That's like saying 1+1=3!
     
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    Guilt by association, eh?
     
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    This just in from CNN - video, no less.

    Bonifield also acknowledged:
    "I haven't seen any good enough evidence to show that the President committed a crime."
    He continues:
    "I just feel like they don't really have it but they want to keep digging. And so I think the President is probably right to say, like, look you are witch hunting me. You have no smoking gun, you have no real proof."

    http://www.veritaslive.com/06-26-2017/americanpravdacnn.html
     
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    It is remarkable that you think trump is all lilly white-that "all" these people that trump surrounds himself with are the corrupt ones, but,nooo,trump is not involved in any wrong doing---You are actually buying that?
    So,then you agree that the people that brought huge amounts of money into trump's casino,exchanged the money for chips,then didn't cash in the chips are just incredibly stupid people? Not money laundering---mmm --
    Incorrect----trump's tax returns would convince even his most ardent supporters that he is a crook, corrupt & all he cares about is himself & his bottome line-----
    Again,trump can stop all these questions, he can show us his tax returns, he can aid the investigation to wrap it up more expeditiously------Show us there donnie, that your lilly white----Why doesn't he?
     
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    I don't buy that trump is all lilly white----I don't have to explain it, the paper reported it----
    Ya know what,you are not going to convince me that trump isn't corrupt as the day is long, that he deserves to be POTUS or that he is a decent man. He is,he doesn't & he's not!
    I have brought you enough links for you to at least have "some" concern, but if you wish to kiss his A##, you go right ahead---
     
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    I don't think the people Trump has around him are corrupt at all! Neither is Trump!

    You *still* haven't figured out what money laundering is all about. If they never cashed in their chips then where was the money laundering?

    FOR THE FOURTH TIME! MONEY LAUNDERING IS GIVING DIRTY MONEY AND GETTING CLEAN MONEY BACK!

    If you never get any money back then it isn't money laundering! YOU CAN'T SPEND CASINO CHIP OUTSIDE THE CASINO!

    FOR THE FOURTH TIME, TRUMP HAS BEEN UNDER IRS AUDIT FOR OVER A DECADE. HE HAS BEEN UNDER SCRUTINY BY A FEDERAL TASK FORCE ON MONEY LAUNDERING AS WELL.

    If Trump was a crook and corrupt then how come none of these federal agents have caught him!

    All his tax returns will do is give his enemies ammunition to castigate him as a rich man. If the Feds can't catch him out then *YOU* aren't going to do so from looking at his tax returns!
     
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    Yup. The paper reported a regulatory agency levying a civil fine for not following rules.
    In said paper is no mention of actual money laundering, or a criminal conviction of anyone for same.
    Yeah... bigotry does that to people.
     
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    It has nothing to do with bigotry-It has everything to do with years of facts & trump's words, & trump's actions--An old quote---" You are only as good as your word & your word is only as good as your actions"
     
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    Cant argue that, hell I watched that same adage come back to bite OBerry right on the keister many times, but he survived, so I imagine Trump will too ;)
     
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    When you state "you are not going to convince me" about a position you take w/o any direct evidence behind it, it has everything to do with bigotry. You -refuse- to believe otherwise.
     
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    Ok, I will admit I am not a crook,so I can't fully explain how a crooked corrupt person pulls this off-my understanding- however is that the person that brought in the (dirty) cash, got the chips & never cashed in the chips, gave the chips to trump,trump destoyed the chips, leaving him with the so-called (clean) cash----
    So, we all know how much trump lies, so you believe that trump is under audit,because trump says so---I don't believe him---
    So,you using "all" caps is rather comical----
     
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    Bull,there is lots of evidence---it just doesn't matter to you,you don't care--And you trying to convince me otherwise because of above statement,does not make me a bigot---The truth does matter to me & I do care ---
    trump is a crook,trump is corrupt,trump is a "fake" POTUS,trump lies,trump's MO is to "win" no matter what it takes---
     
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    Of corruption? Nope.
     
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    Stop and think about what you just said. You think Russians (or somebody) handed Trump bags full of casino chips? And he DESTROYED THEM? How did he get the clean cash if he destroyed the chips so he couldn't cash them in?

    Man, you are lost in the WEEDS! (or weed as it may be)
     
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    He's corrupt to the core and his history and reputation more than confirms this...
     
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    And yet, there's no proof that money was ever laundered - even after the 106 IRS investigations that turned up non-compliance of the rules.
     
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    Ahem---the casino has the cash the (Russians or whoever) brought in---You need " cash" to get chips--if a person doesn't cash in the chips-the casino "still" has that cash-the chips were destroyed-the cash never gets on the books--money laundering complete---
    Well, as tomorrow July 1st Nevada makes it legal to buy recreational pot-However,doesn't matter to me---never smoked it,never will----you seem to keep mentioning booze & drugs---Are you sure your not the one imbibing?
     
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    Nonsense! The extent of Trump's business holdings is everybody's business. Not being in a blind trust, we need to know if our country is being veered in the direction that is most profitable to the President.

    This is not a monarchy, you know....
     
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    The poster clearly has no clue is or is just spitting out nonsensical rhetoric. Trump's corruption throughout his entire professional career is so obvious.
     
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    Trump *OWNED* the hotel, he didn't run it day to day! Jeesshhh.... I own ATT stock If they do something corrupt am I responsible in your eyes?
     
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    How do you put real estate in a blind trust? How many people are you willing to put out of work while the real estate sits idle waiting for a buyer? Are you going to make a pauper out of the doorman at Trump's hotel? Are you going to put the golf caddys at one of his golf clubs in the poorhouse while the course sits idle, going to weeds waiting for a buyer?
     
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    Wait a minute. If the chips are destroyed then how is the cash taken out? Can *YOU* walk into a casino and claim you destroyed your chips but the casino owes you $1K?

    If the money never gets on the books then how did the casino account for the chips?

    And how does the money get back to the Russians? Does Trump just hand over the cash?

    This is *exactly* the kind of stuff the Federal Task Force on Money Laundering watches out for!
     
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    I didn't say the extent of his holdings. I said his tax returns.

    The extent of his holdings can be found on his FEC form. It's on the internet.

    Do you even understand what you are whining about?
     
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    And apparently you don't even know that Trump had to list all his assets on the FEC filing. It's on the internet. Go look at it if you are interested!
     

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