Be careful what you wish for.

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    No, by allowing himself to be packaged, marketed and sold as black by the DNC. Im sure MLKJr was spinning in his grave.
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. The right wing is the joke. Hillary will win by a landslide. Trump will be impeached. The left will sweep congress.

    Yes, it's the right wing that's delusional :)
     
  3. theferret

    theferret Well-Known Member

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    Your willful ignorance would be appalling if it weren't so typical of Trump chumps. Once again, for your education:


    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...right-deportation-numbers-wrong-talks-about-/

    As for your claim:

    http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/

    As usual, right wing flunkies parrot the excerpted talking points the Murdoch noise machine feeds them. But as the article showed, no matter how you slice it, more illegals were "removed" and "deported" under the Obama administration than previous ones. Deal with it, because calling Obama the "worst" President is a joke, considering your butt can afford to be parked in front of a PC parroted this dreck much longer than I spend time here.
     
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    theferret Well-Known Member

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    Newsflash, genius...the man IS "black", because he sure as hell can't pass for one of the Osmond brothers. Sheesh!
     
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  5. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    From your Snopes link.

    "That statistic was due in large part to a change in how "deportations" are defined rather than to an increase in the number of persons deported."

    Maybe you wanna 'prove' the Russian connection too. :icon_picknose:
     
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    From that same link
    Now, the vast majority of border crossers who are apprehended get fingerprinted and formally deported. The change began during the George W. Bush administration and accelerated under Obama. The policy stemmed in part from a desire to ensure that people who had crossed into the country illegally would have formal charges on their records.

    So this was't the Obama Admin "padding" statistics and the Bush numbers were similarly inflated at least since that change was made
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Ahhh, but you miss the point. For 40 years, we'd been taught to judge folks by the depth of thejr character, not the color of their skin. Along comes the DNC and marketed Barack like he was some Mandingo on a platform in Mississippi. Shame on Obama for allowing himself to be used so blatantly as the countrys token black man. If he had insisted on being referred to as an American instead of black, we wouldnt even be having this discussion about skin color. The dems set race relations back at least 40 yrs, resulting in the racial division we have today.

    My opinion, please dont let your head explode.
     
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  8. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    ... "AND ACCELERATED UNDER OBAMA."

    Smoke & mirrors. Like all Obamas 'achievements '
     
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  9. theferret

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    Maybe you wanna READ thoroughly: In the 105 years between 1892 and 1997, the U.S. deported 2.1 million people — meaning that under presidents Bush and Obama, the number of people deported by the U.S. in the course of a century was more than doubled in just 16 years of consecutive presidencies.
     
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    You picked the wrong horse to back. This one lies constantly with no character or moral fiber.
    He's destroyed America's reputation in the world.
    For a businessman or President he doesn't know what due diligence is..........
    America elected a reality tv star to represent us......we got nonsense and drama.........but no Leader.............
     
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    My, but your blatant racism spews forth with little prodding. Where the hell do you get this "marketing like Mandingo" BS? I defy you to provide any proof from the campaign that backs your nonsense. And spare me this "color blind" BS of yours...because YOU sure as hell readily indulged in racist tinged clap trap in your accusations. Obama DID become an American candidate, and he acknowledged that no matter what HE stated, America was going to only see a black man and judge solely on that......that is what the GOP hinged it's two campaigns on (he's not a true American, he doesn't understand what it is to be an American, he's a muslim, etc., etc.)...and FAILED. The DEM party didn't put the words into the mouths of the Fox News pundits, or any of the other Murdoch entities.

    Your denial and revisionism is unreal, given the time frame and sheer weight of documentation to the contrary.
     
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    No, it was the DNC, not the American people who labeled Obama black. Never forget the first time I heard it... i was both amazed and appalled.

    Hey, it worked for them. Set us back 40 years, but they got their first BLACK president. A little late to be outraged... he's history now.
     
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    So in your universe, the physical does not matter...it's the meta-physical, the philosophical that takes precedent over FACTS and HISTORY.

    You're not amazed or appalled...just willfully ignorant and stubbornly in denial. I leave you to your bigoted fantasy world, as trying to educate you beyond your prejudices is futile.
     
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    Doesn't bother me anymore but Im sure MLKJr is still spinning in his grave.
     
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    more like to boost his ego

    Trump will be a one term President...
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Your opinion, obviously. But even one term, Trump's conservative SC picks will be felt in America for decades. :)

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    Yeah. When you redefine the definition of deportation, those numbers can mean whatever you want them to mean. You might be a part of what Obamas campaign lead, called the useful idiots.

    It's right there in your link. Did you even read it:)
     
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    Yeah genius, I read BOTH LINKS. iIf you had, you would have caught this:

    Still, if we add just the full fiscal years in which he has been office, and for which data is available (2010-2014), there have been over 2 million removals. That corroborates Trump’s claim that "under Obama, millions of people have been moved out of this country."

    U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement also issues
    removal data. But its removal totals equals the sum of two actions: "removals" and "returns."

    Removals account for people moved out of the country based on a formal order from a judge. Returns track people who were encountered by ICE, but who chose to depart the United States prior to a resolution of their immigration case.

    Even then, ICE data shows that more than 2 million people have been moved out of the country while Obama has been in office, supporting part of Trump’s claim


    Next time, THINK before you accuse someone of something you are readily acting like.
     
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    Trump is magical.

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    We wanted a conservative businessman, not a lifelong liberal turned conservative 10 years ago business man who is not a philosophical conservative, but a nationalist populist.
     
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    Lol...Have fun polishing turds for the next 4 years.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Wonder how many SC judges we'll get to replace? One? Two? THREE????

    Glory days... enjoy the sidelines. ;)
     
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    How's that 20 trillion dollar debt lookin' to ya?
     
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    Take a gander at the "traditional" GOP leadership.....from right wing evangelists to neo conservatives to tea partiers....they have morphed and attempted to use and throwaway any and every fringe element conservative ideology to gain and remain in power. Trump is what they have reaped from what they have sown.
     
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