DNC files copied locally, NOT hacked

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  1. Hotdogr

    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree. The only possible hole I see in his methodology is that he's basing the whole thing on the last-modified times of the files in the 7z archive. If the archive was created on a machine on the LAN that housed the data, and then transferred via a slower internet link, then the file timestamps would reflect the LAN speed, and would not have been affected by the internet link, thereby sinking his speed calculation.

    For instance, if I had a shell account, through the internet, onto a machine in their LAN, and I made an archive of data I found there, it would be the same as if I were sitting there at the machine I had shell on. In fact, if I had a slow link, compressing the data first would be what I would want to do.

    He may have addressed this in his analysis and I missed it. I breezed through it pretty quick this morning.
     
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    Are you serious? Your definition literally said "physical evidence."

    You know I've followed your posts over time and have not known you to be particularly crazy, but I can only assume that "Russia, Russia, Russia!" is driving you out of your mind. Arguing that a subpoena can't be used to get a server involved in a criminal investigation is ludicrous, and frankly I'm surprised you are making it. There are plenty of left leaning posters who are more than willing to say anything, no matter how stupid, to support the narrative. I would rather you not join them.
     
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    It is the data, not the machine.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Anytime buddy!!!

    BTW, please let me know when a server or hard disk doesn't show up for court when given a subpoena, there should be a bench warrant out on it(them). :)

    FYI, I work for the NJ Turnpike now, for all toll traffic transactions, we take pictures of the license plate. That info is held on a server. (Guess who the custodian is? ;))
    Now we get subpoenas from the courts to view some of these plates and their transactions. (Guess who wrote the software for the legal team to access and then provide the evidence?;))

    Nary once, was the server or the hard drive subpoenaed.
     
  5. GrayMan

    GrayMan Well-Known Member

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    My internet is 50mbps i can do 100mbps if i wanted. The idea that 25mbps had to be over LAN or local is absurd.
     
  6. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...It's fake news and it wouldn't change anything anyway.
    We already have trump jr admitting that he was colluding with Russians to attack Clinton and his earlier lies about the meetings are part of the public record.
     
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    You are connecting dots that are not there.

    This is commonly called paranoid schizophrenia.
     
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    Bad strategy. Much better to adapt than to deny. For instance, why not comment:

    "Putin has men too you know, not just computers. He got someone to walk in and download the files onto a USB stick, then decoy the DNC to an internet based hack to throw us off"

    I know it's difficult to consistently move the goalposts but you've got to innovate. Those who stagnate will perish.

    Thanks,

    Steady Pie.
     
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    Read my post again. Home internet speeds are on average WAAAAAAAAY faster than business speeds. Do the Ookla test at your work with your phone (although they may dial it down for devices), but you can do it with a work PC easily too. Work uploads usually do not exceed 7-8. Home will got to 50+ if you have quality. I do 250 down and 40 up which is blazing fast.
     
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    Everybody knows the Russians didn't hack the DNC, it was an inside job and someone died for it.
     
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    25MBps is 8 times faster than 25mbps; 400mbps. It is not impossible to achieve 400mbps over an internet link, but very unusual for normal business and home use, and very unlikely for someone in Romania to be able to achieve as sustained throughput to a server in the US. By contrast, 1000mbps is very common LAN speed these days.
     
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    All you need to know.

    https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2-ngp-van-metadata-analysis/

     
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    There's a link under "gateway pundit."
     
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    The fact this supposedly happened five days before Seth Rich was murdered is even more intriguing.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a very powerful and complete analysis that proves with nearly 100% certainty that this was not a remote exploit.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed.
     
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    Thanks I didn't realize it was megabits vs megabytes.
     
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      • Due to the estimated speed of transfer (23 MB/s) calculated in this study, it is unlikely that this initial data transfer could have been done remotely over the Internet.
    my computer is currently downloading a Windows update at around 2.6 MB per second.

    this is not using the most advanced internet technology.
     
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  19. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Verizon FIOS offers an internet connection at up to 940 Mpbs download and 880 Mbps upload.

    that's far greater than the speeds used to hack the DNC server.
     
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