UPDATE: Single-Payer Unanimously Defeated in Senate, Dozens of Dems Vote 'Present'.....

Conyers is a socialist along with many more "fake" democrats. A Single payer bill would be expected from him. He's doing a wonderful job with MI though don't you think?

 

More common than voting on amendments to a secret bill lol

 

So now you have it, it's failing and the GOP has no finger prints on it. Not ONE Senator, Democrat, Socialist of Republican voted for Single Payer to replace it. So on we go.

I would like to see Trump reverse Obama's executive order so that Congress and Federal Employees are on Obamacare, which would help increase enrollment and help stave of collapse. It's the least Trump can do, to try and save it!

 

It is no surprise. Any GOP HC bill similar to Obamacare was destined to fail the same as Obamacare. Republicans were just going through the motions. With very few exceptions,(Fake R Collins for one) no republican wanted their name on any HC plan that can never be sustainable. So dems still own Obamacare. It can never be fixed. Many more dems are affected by the dying Obamacare. That will remain his legacy. All 49 democrat senators who do nothing but take up seats in the senate will truly be responsible when people that can't afford Obamacare die. Obamacare affects many more democrats than it does republicans (Many of the entitled don't vote at all but support democrats). I would have liked to see a clean repeal. That would never happen either. So keep your crappy HC plan dems, you deserve it.

 

The WH fingerprints ARE on it. And 4 failed votes to fix it will not reflect well on them. People didn't send them to DC to blame democrats...they've got the power to fix it and refuse to.

 

And so we're supposed to be offended that Democrats saw through such an obvious and amateurish ploy and decided en masse not to play along? Are Trumpanzees really that effin' stupid?

 

Different day, SOS.

 

so they wasted all that and money for what, were they helping trump drain the swamp?

lauding politicians for doing nothing is not something that should be taking place.

sen schumer has more than once asked to work together to fix the system.

 

Some voted did they not? So not all Democrats heard the collective. You can tell those were the ones that were doing all the talking.

Which does leave one to wonder who really was that stupid to fall into an obvious trap.

 

Who's lauding them. They just wanted to get a bill to the floor. They knew it would fail. They voted so they could all take a 5 week vacation.
Wasting money? Democrat obstructions clowning around with 30 hour debates for every conformation costs a lot more money than what republicans have spent dicking around with HC bills they throw together in a couple days. Schemer said he would end obstructing, what he knows is wrong, if dems. get to "help" fix Obamacare. It can't be fixed. Schemer wants more entitlements, not less. Thanks, but no thanks.

 

"Thought"... there's your problem.

 

The GOP even pinky-sweared that after repealing they would sit down with the Democrats and work on a bipartisan solution!

I'm glad the Democrats told them to go **** themselves this time around during the entire process. Seems like maybe they've learned that you simply can't trust a Republican and McConnell is just the worst sort of dirtbag partisan.

 

Medicare isn't even really single payer. Medicare is just the money manager in most cases. They contract out to the major insurers for use of their networks and their administration of plans.

 

So now we all end up in a worse situation because party comes first in DC.

 

That's right. I thought Democrats had the courage to stand for their socialist convictions but they don't. I was wrong.

But, "progressives" never operate openly and honestly, and that's why you refer to yourselves as "progressives" - you can't even be open and honest about who and what you are. Last night, the progs in the Democratic party couldn't be open and honest about what they stand for, either.

 

Well, we still have what was in place before the GOP took the majority. In some ways we don't really have a majority, we have between 3 and 7 "swingers" so, we need to work on some more solid Freedom/Liberty members who are dedicated to governmental restraint. Right now we have about 45 and that's not enough.

Kid Rock 49, Debbie Stabenow 46.

 

What was in place before the vote is dying and no one in DC will be in favor of the measures it would take to fix it.

GOP won't because it will still be Obamacare.
Dems won't because then the GOP gets credit for fixing it.

So these overpaid pompous morons we elected will continue to play football with oujr health care and health insurance industries while making no attempts to fix anything that's wrong with those industries.

 

Yes. We still have our healthcare system, what is under attack is our healthcare insurance system which is how most of access our healthcare.

I'd start with the easy stuff, like countermanding Obama's EO that exempted Congress and the Federal Government from Obamacare.

End the unauthorized insurance company bailouts that the Court has already ruled are not authorized by Obamacare.

Then, do whatever HHS can do improve it, and this is the big one, Obama set the precedent that the President, by EO could do pretty much anything he wanted with this thing. Where insurance markets have less than 2 choices, by executive order, suspend the Health Insurance reform and go back to the pre-existing system where you were free to buy whatever health insurance you wanted that an insurer was willing to sell you. Trump has already suspended penalties, in those markets he simply needs to also suspend the penalties for anyone who markets insurance that does not conform to the mandates.

 

Clean repeal 2 years to come up with a better system.. This reform or slight changing nonsense solves nothing.. Neither does both parties doing one up man ship with poision pills for cheap headlines.

 

Maybe they have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.

 

they went to floor knowing it would fail, is the definition of time and money wasted

 

Oh they do, they just don't want their names attached to it. The plan was for Obama Care to fail leaving no choice but to go with single payer.

 

Dem obstructed nothing. Republicans had the votes to pass whatever they wanted to.

This is on them

 

As far as the republican HC plans including the last one, democrats didn't obstruct, they snoozed and did nothing until it was time to all vote No.

If you read what I wrote, it was about intentional obstruction of more than 50 outstanding conformations. Debating each for the 30 hour time limit is deliberate "slow walking" obstruction.

 

Another Accuser of John Conyers Comes to Light

The former staffer later withdrew the complaint, stating that she had "affection" for the "civil rights icon."

Still, she didn't seem to much enjoy working under him.

Another former staff member to Michigan Rep. John Conyers alleged that she endured persistent sexual harassment by the congressman, according to court documents.

A former scheduler in the Conyers' office attempted to file a sealed lawsuit against him this February in the US District Court for the District of Columbia that alleges she suffered unwanted touching by the Democrat “repeatedly and daily.” She abandoned the lawsuit the next month, after the court denied her motion to seal the complaint.

The woman was not involved in the 2015 sexual harassment and wrongful dismissal complaint that Conyers settled in 2015, which was revealed Monday by BuzzFeed News, and is now under investigation by the House Ethics Committee.

The lawsuit centered on behavior that took place later, from 2015 to 2016, but involves similar allegations. The woman said that shortly after she started to work for Conyers he began to make sexual advances in the form of inappropriate comments and touching.

Yup, Conyers is a real sanctimonious creep!