Laziest President in American History Departs for 17-Day Golf Resort Vacation

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  1. Conviction

    Conviction Well-Known Member

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    Your post isn't relevant, actually.
     
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  2. MrTLegal

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    Only ~13 times worse given that he has vacationed more in 7 months than Obama did in 8 years.
     
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    Yea...not jesting. At all. The man is a lazy slacker who is using your tax dollars to fund his businesses and vacations.
     
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    That's Ok because he's doing what I voted him to do.
     
  5. Sadanie

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    Really? What?

    He has done almost NOTHING!
     
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    Trump is going on a long August vacation. Meanwhile he is demanding that members of Congress forfeit their recess and stay in session to continue failing at repealing the ACA. Great work Mr. President.
     
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    It's the Stay Puft man from Ghostbusters....:p

     
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    You spelled it wrong, it is WHINING. :p
     
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    Well, at least Trump is staying out ofPalm Beach - the Lantana Airport was about to go belly up and every one there loose their jobs if Trump's presence shut them down for weeks on end.
     
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    He seems to do a lot more fighting for Putin's interests than America's; whenever he's not on one of his frequent vacays that is.

    Laziest president ever.
     
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    He appointed a Right leaning Supreme Court Justice and if he builds a wall and keeps illegals out I will be happy. Anything else is just gravy. What is about you leftist that think more laws are good. The less that gets done and repealed would be better for the country. I'm an American and I believe in a very small Federal government. If I need a nanny I'll hire one.
     
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    Riiight. We're just supposed to forget how he couldn't handle that trip overseas and started having to cancel things.

    The man is an out-of-shape clown who probably almost passes out from walking up the stairs to AF1.
     
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    That was Hillary falling and tripping in her clown pants suits.
     
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    Donald looks just like Hillary Clinton? I realize he is very feminine but I don't see it.
     
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    Be a lame duck president?
     
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    Maybe Melania referred him to her plastic surgeon because she likes her man to have a bit of junk in the trunk.
     
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    Be an embarassing pig of an incompetent human being who has obviously never worked an honest day in his life?
     
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    Not unless Hillary Clinton changed her name to President Donald Trump and made an embarrassing trip overseas where she had to cancel engagements and ride behind the other G20 leaders in a golf cart...
     
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    The whining just doesn't stop. It's like a bunch of 3rd graders crying for ice cream.
     
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    1. Trump's only promise on his supreme court pick was that he would pick a judge who was in favor of overturning Roe v Wade. Gorsuch is expressively against overturning. Agree or disagree, this is not what he had promised
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/21/politics/scotus-hearing-neil-gorsuch-roe-v-wade/index.html

    2.The president didn't withdraw from any trade agreement, the deal was never made to begin with, he simply backed out of negotiations, which had already been falling apart the year prior

    3.The author claims that he cut jobs killing regulations, but there is no proof that these regulations were in fact preventing job growth. In fact, the first half of 2017 saw the slowest job growth since 2010. If these regulations were slowing job growth, then we should have seen a job growth increase.

    4.It's actually a misleading statement to say that Trump opened the first coal mine in decades. The mine which opened in Pennsylvania was not the first mine to open in decades, but rather the first mine to open from the Corsa Coal Company in decades. Furthermore, this mine was approved during the Obama administration and not by Trump
    http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/07/01/coal-mine-jobs-trump-obama-pkg-savidge-kth-ac.cnn

    5.The Keystone pipeline is a massive imminent domain project that is owned 100% by a Canadian oil company, and is designed to import Canadian oil into the US faster, which goes against the president's promise of making the US energy independent
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransCanada_Corporation#Keystone_Pipeline

    6.Selling natural gas to Poland is a good thing, but it again goes against the goal of making the US energy independent.

    7.Actually economic analysis showed the Paris agreement would be good for the US economy, and that pulling out of the agreement is not expected to create jobs. That's because the US is one of the 5 leading exporters in solar panels and wind turbines. Exiting the agreement means the participating countries will be buying their solar panels and wind turbines elsewhere
    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/05/trump_paris_climate.html
    http://fortune.com/2017/06/01/paris-agreement-american-businesses-donald-trump/

    8.I don't believe the person who that Trump signed 13 "Congressional Reviews Acts" knows what they are talking about. The Congressional Review Act was a single piece of legislation that was signed by president Clinton. The act allows for congress to pass resolutions of disapproval for policies passed by federal agencies
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Review_Act

    9.Again, I don't believe the person who wrote this knows what they are talking about, they listed that he signed 28 news laws, and then later again in their list include that he signed over 40 new bills into law. The person who wrote this posted Trump's 100 day law count as well as his 6 months law count. Basically listing the same thing twice at different times to make the list look bigger


    10.This one is interesting because Trump had previously criticized Obama over twitter, commenting "Why is BarackObama constantly issuing executive orders that are major power grabs of authority?”. Now we're bragging about Trump signing 30 executive orders? okay..

    11.This is just downright stupid, and exactly what I was talking about in #10. They are praising Trump for making executive orders while simultaneously criticizing Obama for making executive orders, and without providing any kind of description for what those orders are. The only thing distinguished are the names of the people who signed the orders, which apparently is all that matters to some people

    12.This is again what I was talking about in #8, it's basically listing the same accomplishment twice, and emphasizing only on the overall number. It is worth noting that Trump's first 6 months is actually slightly under the average rate at which our past 6 presidents have passed laws. If we're basing judgment on the number of laws passed alone, it is around the average, which isn't bad
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/us/politics/trump-laws-bills.html

    13.He himself didn't "win" those special elections, members of party did. However, these were all elections that were held in districts that were already held by Republicans for decades prior, and it is also worth noting that none of the candidates in those states had asked the president to rally by their side, despite the fact that the president had been holding rallies for himself across the country during that same period of time.

    14.Catch and release immigration was officially ended in 2006 by president Bush, but since then people have pointed to specific policies to claim that "catch and release" is still in effect, including policies under president Trump.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/11/justice-dept-end-catch-and-release-immigration-pol/

    15. Illegal immigration arrests are up, but deportations are down(note, that this does not represents arrests at the border)
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...s-up-deportations-down-under-trump/484437001/

    16. Illegal border crossing have actually been down since the recession. In 2015 it was reported that more people had crossed back into Mexico than crossed into the US since the year 2009
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/20/more-mexicans-leaving-us-than-entering-study-says.html

    17. The US border security budget and overall manpower has gone up every administration since Reagan, despite the fact that border arrests have been down since 2009, and are continuing to go down

    https://apnews.com/b0f539efd27d4f62b7745c16e7630dd8


    18. Again, ICE manpower has been going up for decades, from 2004 to 2011 the overall number of border agents was doubles. We're spending more and more money even as arrest continue to plummet.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...says-border-patrol-has-doubled-number-agents/

    19. This was already addressed in #15, this is another example of the author mentioning the same thing twice at two different periods to make the list look longer

    20. Kate's Law has still not been passed at the federal level

    21. This is another example where the author doesn't know what they are talking about. 1. The "No Sanctuary for Criminals Act" was introduced by a congressman from Virginia and has not yet passed. 2. The bill would not punish sanctuary cities. It applies to individuals who have been arrested for a crime, and allows ICE agents to claim custody of individuals from local jails. Those that do not comply could be subject to suet in law from the families of those harmed by said inmates.
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr3003/summary

    22.Once again, the author doesn't seem to know what they are talking about. DACA has not ended, in June by the Department of Homeland Security stated that they would rescind certain expansions made by the Obama administration, but that program's overall existence would continue to be reviewed.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/16/trump-daca-immigration-deportation-relief-program-239654

    23. Actually, we only have a date for the border wall "prototype" which is scheduled for next September. This is basically them considering different designs from competing companies that want build the wall. We still do not have a date for when the wall will be built, or what design will be used(No contracts have been awarded as of yet). Congress is still working on funding the project, which is going to be payed by American tax payer and not Mexico

    24. There hasn't been a deadly attack from any of the 7 listed countries (now 6) included in the travel ban on the US in over 40 years

    25. Another misleading statement. The US's refugee intake has not gone down by 50%, that number in reduction represents refugee intake from Syria only. The State Department announced last May that the US is projected to take in around 70,000 refugees by September this year in comparison to 85,000 refugees the year before. Nowhere close to being over 50% reduction
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/26/us/politics/united-states-refugees-trump.html

    26. Another misleading statement, the $100 million grant was funded by the Water Infrastructure Improvements for the Nation Act of 2016, or WIIN, which was signed by President Obama in December 2016, not by Trump
    http://www.snopes.com/epa-grant-flint-water/

    27.This one is absolutely true, the president sent in federal investigators to help with Chicago's gun violence, and more importantly it is not the "military in the streets" scenario that people were crying about when the idea to send the feds was first suggested

    28.This is true, spending for the Veterans Administration is supposed to go up by 6% for the fiscal year 2018, however these additional funds are being made for healthcare, not for "modernization" of the administration. It is also worth noting that funds for the Veterans Administration went up by 85% during the period of the previous administration

    29.The US's military isn't being rebuilt. Both the Bush and Obama administrations each broke the world record for most money spent on military per year. The annual amount that these two leaders spent on average every year for their military is more than any other leaders in world history

    30. This one doesn't really describe a policy or position, it just says he supports Law Enforcement Agencies

    31.This one is probably the most honest, as it says he is seeking to increase penalties for violent crimes instead of giving him credit for policies that haven't even been passed like some of the prior examples

    32.This one goes back to giving credit for policies that have not been passed.The US has so far cut $32 million from the UN family planning agency, however this is nowhere close to the "billions" that the author of this list claims. While the administration has in the past expressed their desire to make billions in cuts, no such policies have been implemented

    33. This is probably the most profoundly incarcerate claim on the list. The national debt has come nowhere close to being reduced considering we are still running a deficit. I'm going to assume what the author actually means is a reduction in the national deficit (in contrast to the debt), but in either case, the claim is still inaccurate. The fiscal budget is signed the year prior to the actual year. So for example, Obama signed the 2017 budget in 2016, and George W Bush signed the 2009 budget in 2008. Trump has yet to sign the 2018 budget, so we have yet to see if there is a $100 billion reduction in the national deficit by $100 billion, much less the national debt(which would require a balanced budget in order to accomplish)and even his proposed budget is nowhere close to reducing the DEFICIT by $100 billion

    34.This one just says cut wasteful staff requirements, but gives us no referenced amount or comparison to fact check

    35.This one is another misleading inclusion. It's referring to the Philly Fed's monthly index, which last February reported their highest improvement since June 2009, making it their highest index score in 33 years. However, this index represents the Philadelphia region and not the US as a whole (the way author claims)

    36.Job growth is at a 7 year low. The author claims that job growth has improved under Trump at an "incredible rate".In actuality the first half of 2017 saw lower job growth that the first half of 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016 all saw. We're still seeing job growth under Trump, which is a really good thing, however job growth is actually slowing down. Certainly not improving at an "incredible rate"
    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth

    37.This is another example of a claim with no reference to fact check, it just says he worked with small business owners to help our economy. And again, job growth is actually at a 7 year low. There's no facts to prove this claim is true

    38.This is another claim that shows nothing to back it up to prove it is true, and provides no reference to fact check. It just says he introduced a tax plan to help working Americans. Literally any supporter of any president or governor can make this claim,but the results (which this claim has none to reference) will vary

    39.The executive order known as "buy American, hire American" holds no weight without an authorization from congress, and if the policy is ever brought to congress, it is questionable whether the bill would get any support from economists. People who study economics have a tendency to support freer markets, meaning issuing fewer restrictions on commerce.
    https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-buy-american-executive-order-e6fc0aee89de/

    40.This one is true, the stock market and dow are booming, however this is largely due to 80+ consecutive months of job growth

    41.This one says he is helping reduce food stamp dependency. I assume what this one is referring to is his proposal to cut food stamps by $192 billion over 10 years, which is probably how the author should have described it instead of trying to explain it in a way that sounds more appealing

    42.Unemployment is at a 16 year low, but again this is mostly due to 80+ straight months of job growth, out of which 6 would be under his presidency, and again those 6 months actually represent a decrease in job growth

    43.Low unemployment again reflects 80+ straight months of job growth

    44.Consumer confidence also reflects 80+ straight months of job growth

    45.Public opinion of the US from the UK, China, and Japan have all decreased under Trump. To say that he has improved our relations with these counties holds no basis. Public opinion of the US from Russia did improve, however that has likely changed very recently,which is actually congress's fault and not the president's
    http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26...lics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/

    46.This claims that there were freed humanitarian workers from Egyptian thanks to Trump. In actuality it was only one worker who was freed, but none the less, the president should get credit
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...rker-returns-to-us-after-egypt-detention.html

    47. The Syria ceasefire is with Russia and Jordan is another area where the president should get credit considering under Hillary our policy in Syria would likely still be for regime change.

    48.This one claims he is cracking down on ISIS and North Korea, but in actuality things are mostly the same as they were before. The US trains troops to fights ISIS and conducts air strikes,and in North Korea nothing really happens outside of sanctions and warnings from the US. Supporters of Obama and Bush would also say that they cracked down on ISIS and North Korea

    49.This one says he is ending tax payer funding for abortions. Okay, first off 1. It is already illegal for US tax dollars to directly pay for an abortion. 2. All abortions done by organizations like planned parenthood are payed out of pocket, and not by public funds, and 3. The US government is still funding planned parenthood. None of this has changed

    50.This is another claim with no reference or comparison to fact check, it just says he has protected the religion rights of all Americans. You could make this same claim about literally every president in US history

    51.This one says that president Trump reestablished the Space Counsil, which is absolutely true, and something that he should get credit for
     
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    Nice effort.
     
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    Thank you, but I had to shorten it quite a bit to meet the boards' character limit :yawn:
     
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    Damn, I didn't realize the man was such a fat slob. Didn't Megan Kelly say at the debate that he once called women "fat pigs"?

    This guy said that?
     
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    I know that I'm impressed but a few points if I may.
    It could be argued that he has reduced the payroll by simple leaving posts unfilled. Just take the number of embassies around the world being run by the Chargé des Affaires rather than an Ambassador as an example. We've got the second team representing us all over the world. This is the case in many, many departments, not just State. He can't blame Democrats as they have only one real weapon in blocking his appointments and that is to call for a roll call so each Republican has to go on record as voting yes. This is somewhat of a problem for them because come election time some of the more inane appointments are going to be held over their heads.

    Job growth should be lower as unemployment lowers so I don't have a beef with him on this. It's similar to people worrying that China's military spending goes up 10% while ours only 4%. Considering the difference in starting points theirs going up double in terms of % still is half our increase in terms of dollars.

    1. Provided that the virtually automatically appended Hyde Amendment is in the funding bill. A fine detail but might as well be precise to prevent a perceived if erroneous "gotcha". There hasn't been a spending bill without it since the amendment was created in '76. So, for 40 years your statement has held true and likely will continue to do so.
    2. Some States do provide funds but as you said no federal money.


    My intention is not to nitpick but to head off the inevitable. Some seem to latch on to the tiniest things for objection and use that to disregard the whole. Look at global climate change. Overall a fantastic job and far more effort that I or Trump would have made.

    PS On the subject of PO's signed does he include the ones blocked wholly or partially by the courts? And does he include the law that Trump just signed that would not likely hold up in court because of the limitations on the presidents discretion in foreign policy? Any other president in history would have vetoed it in a heartbeat and forced congress to override knowing that the next day they'd be filing briefs with the Supreme Court over it's Constitutionality. Lazy wuss.
     
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    What sweat is it of yours? The man is working for a dollar a year. He has already donated his pay to the environment and to education. You don't become a billionaire by not working. The only people being consistently embarrassed are the ones who have under estimated him. Been over a year now and still no Russian collusion.
     

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