If you are not capable of Immediately answering this easy question ... Then you're not Presidential

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  1. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    I'm a fiscal conservative and a social moderate. I detest racists and the alt-right. They don't represent me or anyone I know.

    The man who drove that car into the crowd killed an innocent woman. He deserves no mercy and no support for his actions, but some people are desperately attempting to justify his actions. That's both sad and hideous.
     
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    I haven't excused, ignored or diminished their violence as you're trying to do.

    I've also pointed out how your violent comrades on the Left are culpable for the deaths of two Virginia state troopers because they have proven that they cannot conduct themselves in a lawful, non-violent manner.

    The question is as asinine as it is irrelevant. Violence is violence, whether it's lethal or not.
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where are the moderators lately? How is OP getting away with this over and over again...
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True, but I was talking about Trump.

    Is anyone criticizing him for failing to identify the ANSWERniks who participated in the violence?

    Of course, the answer is no, but I trust you understand the point behind my line of questioning...

    The answer is obvious.

    My question wasn't an answer to your charge. After you edited your post I dispensed with the comments in your opening paragraph.

    I don't know that responding to the spurious charge that Trump is somehow sympathetic towards "white nationalists" (or whatever you want to call them) and running interference for them qualifies as a "pivot", but I agree that there are people who need to stop burying their hands in the sand and/or giving violent protesters a pass. For the record, I also agree that the only person responsible for Heyer's death was the man who killed her.
     
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    Getting away with noting our president is a racist?

    Sorry, Trump's stance is absolutely anti-American.

    And, recanting later does not counter his demonstration.

    This is not the first time he has promoted this direction on this topic. He has no defense.
     
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    You're being sarcastic, right?
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are rules for the current events forum. This thread should be in opinions.

    Just because you agree with him doesn't change the rules.
     
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    So the question is ...

    Do you condemn the actions of neo-Nazis?
    Do you condemn the actions of white supremacists?


    Why is this such an unfair question to as your President?
    Why are people attacking the question?
    What makes the question so difficult to ask and so outrageous?

    It's a simple question ... actually it's a Yes or No question.

    So butthurt over the question and what are their so many people protesting and call for censorship?

    It's just a Political Question on a Politcal Forum ... so what's to Fear?
     
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    I can't help you there. Never heard the term "ANSWERnicks" until today.

    No, the pivot I'm talking about is his pivot from walking on eggshells around white nationalists to his explicit condemnation of white nationalists this morning.

    Yes. On both sides. And not just when it comes to violent protesters; people are burying their heads in the sand regarding outright murderers, attempted murderers and terrorists. I've lost count of how many times I've provided a list of such people to right-wing forumites who argue that the left is violent and the right isn't, only for the heads to go in the sand again.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a Current Even ... unless there was another Event that had people asking the President the same question all weekend?
    Donald Trump came out and gave a speak, after that speech, the reports asked these questions.

    Maybe Fox News didn't show it.
     
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    Do you detest BLM killings and Antifa as well? I'm with you on the rejecting racist but most conservatives I know reject both sides wackos. Saying one's done this or that blah blah makes no sense. Their all POS and all deserve what the law can throw at them. Saying the President supports this crap is just partisan hate.
     
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    “To say you won’t respect the result of the election, that is a direct threat to our democracy. “The peaceful transfer of power is one of the things that makes America, America!…Look, some people are just sore losers.”
     
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    No. I'm not a state or federal judge. I literally have no power to sentence this man to any kind of legal punishment. It's true.
     
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    Was there more than one side commiting terrorism during any Islamist terror attack?
     
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    Great Question, maybe that can be answered in a Tread not created about why Donald Trump can't condemn White Supremacist?
     
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    How many Groups Ran their Car over a Woman this weekend?
     
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    lol. tool.
     
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    None, next question
     
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    Can you name the group responsible? There were probably a dozen groups in attendance.
     
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    Why is it only white racist groups are evil and singled out by liberals?
     
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    WTF kind of question is that? Of course I detest any killings. I don't know of any "Antifa" killings, nor do I know of any "BLM killings".

    I can't stand seeing any innocent people killed, no matter who does it. Does anyone on here egg on the killing innocent people?

    I'm also very confused where I said the President "supports this crap", and tell me what "this crap" is precisely. I didn't mention President Trump in that post of mine you quoted.
     
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    That's because you see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear.

    Reality is tough.
     
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    Perhaps because asking those questions is ridiculous in the first place and a waste of time.

    While we're at it, why don't we ask the president, "Uh Sir? Do you condemn armed robbery? We need you to answer the question Mr. President, because we want to know that you do not condone people forcibly taking the property of other people at gunpoint. We just want to make this clear. Oh, and do you condemn rape? Please answer the question. Mr. President, do you condemn the use of chainsaws to dismember people? Don't avoid the question. People need to know your stance on this so that they don't have any doubts. Mr. President do you condemn kidnapping? Do you condemn tax evasion? Do you condemn jay-walking? Do you condemn talking too loud in the theater?"

    Perhaps Trump-haters should just come up with a list of all the wrong things a person could possibly do, and Trump could just get it out there and say, "I don't like these things. Please don't do them. Please obey the law and love your fellow man" and then the government could get on with something other than putting everything the president says under a microscope and analyze how he said it, when he said it, the tone of his voice when he said it, his body language, etc. etc. etc.

    But if you're desperate to hate the guy, then just go on and do so already. We get it. You don't like him. Now let government do something productive (rather than being perpetually wrapped up in navel gazing) and perhaps someday the democrat party and republican party will be able to stop behaving like the Capulets and the Montagues? After all, how did that turned out?
     
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    Yet those FBI numbers were exceeded in just one attack. Perhaps it's a rounding error?

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/multiple-injuries-shooting-orlando-nightclub-police/story?id=39789552
     
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    That he hit people on purpose? Who knows. But Trump coming out and publicly saying he did do it, especially on purpose, would mean he would not be put on trial for it.

    Is that really the outcome you're after?
     
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