When the real Deplorables come out to play

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    When Hillary Clinton made the now infamous, "Basket of Deplorables" comment, Trump spun it to attach to all Trump supporters. However, the attack in Charlottesville over the weekend confirms Clintons statement, which will surely burst the red solo cup readers heads out there.

    The Neo-Nazi and White Supramacist/Nationalist groups that attached activists of peace and anti-fascism were the Deplorables who came out to play. The people chanting, "Blood and Soil" who most likely voted for Trump last November, let alone the white terrorist from Ohio. This urges the underlying question of the following:

    Why is the Trump coalition quick to call ethnic acts of terror, "terrorism" whereas they go silent when a white guy does the exact same thing? Why doesn't Trump condemn white supremacy like he does Islam?

    Simple, that 24 percentile of devotees to him is the answer, the support he will never lose. The white nationalists who want Mexicans deported and the Mudlim faith reduced. It is this number and support Trump doesn't want to lose so he can stay in power.

    Not only was Hillary right all along, but now our worst fears about modern-day fascism have been confirmed. When the real Deplorables come out to play, and Trump goes silent, it says a lot more about the Trump coalition than the rest of us.
     
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    The problem with trying to put this genie back in the bottle is that leftists, spurred by MSM tirelessly drove the "deplorable" Trump supporter narrative. Then compounding the injustice, liberal academia wages war on "whiteness". You can't broadcast for a year that european descendants are inherently racist without creating a backlash. ANTIFA enters the fray bringing it's violent style of demonstration, and sudenly white supremists find sympathy. Now I credit you with being the 1st one courageous enough to offer up a number .... 24%? That's roughly 15 million white supremists. I'd like to know how you've arrived at 24% ...
     
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    Yeah, Hilly really nailed it last year when she said that half of Trumpf supporters belong in a "basket of deplorables".

    And the right-wingers, as usual, couldn't handle THE TRUTH...
     
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    In short...if your support the white supremacists who showed up in Charlottesville (even a little...or make excuses for it)...yea..she was talking about YOU.
     
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    The real deplorables are the Communist paid agitators who came armed with baseball bats and flamethrowers and we're attacking Americans.

    Condemn them now.
     
  6. Balto

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    Abt evidence to back this conspiracy theory? There weren't paid agitators to cause these people to hold up torches and shout the 1930s Nazi phrase, "Blood and Soil"
     
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    It confirms nothing, because what you just wrote is completely fallacious. This is guilt-by-association.

    The only person who is guilty of this crime is the person who committed it. That's all. End of story. Trying to pin his crime on other people based on association is dishonest. I could find liberals who do bad things (Antfia) and say, "Antifa are liberals. They do bad things. Therefore all liberals do bad things."

    However, I understand that that is dishonest and fallacious, so I don't do it. Why do you? Are you that desperate to hate and vilify people? I hope not.

    It's like saying, "The person who committed the crime in Charlottesville was a man. He did bad things. Therefore all men do bad things." I could associate you with him too. "He wears clothes. He is a racist. Therefore all people who wear clothes are racist."

    The vast majority of conservative people DO NOT like fascism, the KKK, racism, Hitler, etc. Countless conservative men and women (VERY conservative by today's standards) fought in WWII against Nazi regime. You would make them guilty of being a "deplorable" simply based on the fact that they are conservative, thus guilty by some illogical association. That's sad.

    Too many people are operating on emotions and exaggerating other people's positions. It's like they think anybody who is one step to the right of them on the political spectrum is actually twenty steps to the right. "Because he's to the right of me, he's a fascist." Really?

    I know many, many conservative people (more than I am even), and not a single one remotely resembles in the tiniest way the nonsensical caricature some liberals have created in their minds as to what they think a typical conservative is like. I don't know it is. Maybe it's the glut of superhero movies that have come out in the last ten to twenty years. Some people seem to think everyone is either a hero or a villain, a saint or some diabolical hellspawn. "You either vote democrat or you worship Hitler." Really? Is that the world you live in? Everyone is either Batman or the Joker?
     
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    There are no excuses, there's only the attempt to avoid blame. Or in my case, I wanted to avoid this sticking to the President, because it's the LAST thing he needs right now. This country's messed up on all sides, and he was right to say 'on all sides'. No one's innocent.
     
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    Speaking of deplorables, the fascist left trew rocks, bottles, urine, and used mace against a legal protest.
     
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    Who's idea was it to do Unite The Right? Stop pinning the left of center for all your claims.
     
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    They hold rallies every year. The left is helping them without even realizing it. Dumb lefties.
     
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    When the clergy that was there about love attempted to have their voices heard, they were attacked with as one colleague of the clergy noted, "clubs, bats and brass knuckles." There is no way at all it can be doubted this was on behalf of the ugliness from the right.

    You can continue to blame the media, you can continue to blame Democratic politicians, you can continue to blame anti-fascism activists, but at the end of the day, if Trump didn't want to be associated with white nationalism and supremacy, he would've stayed away from David Duke at all costs.
     
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    Oh wait, you got that from Democracy Now, not any legitimate outlet.

    Reporters there reported on the left wing violence. Your point?
     
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    So what if they unite? Let them unite! Who cares? "Oh but, they spout hateful things!" And? Wow, breaking news: somebody said something that is hateful. I guess that would be about the fifty-eight billionth time that has happened. "But people will listen to them." Not if you ignore them.

    So why even protest them? Why get all noisy and just behave the same way they do? After all, as it's been said, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

    You want them to go away? The best thing that people could have done would have been to IGNORE them. Not even acknowledge them. Treat them as if they were irrelevant and the most boring thing in the world, about as interesting as a chair. What could have been more demoralizing to them? Let them huff and puff and spout whatever they want. And is it really that shocking or novel what these white supremacists were saying? "We're white. We're awesome." Blah blah blah blah. My goodness, that is not even worth getting upset over!
     
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    This deplorable's father is a thousand times the man Trump could ever be:

    My name is Pearce Tefft, and I am writing to all, with regards to my youngest son, Peter Tefft, an avowed white nationalist who has been featured in a number of local news stories over the last several months.

    On Friday night, my son traveled to Charlottesville, Va., and was interviewed by a national news outlet while marching with reported white nationalists, who allegedly went on to kill a person.

    I, along with all of his siblings and his entire family, wish to loudly repudiate my son’s vile, hateful and racist rhetoric and actions. We do not know specifically where he learned these beliefs. He did not learn them at home.

    I have shared my home and hearth with friends and acquaintances of every race, gender and creed. I have taught all of my children that all men and women are created equal. That we must love each other all the same.

    Evidently Peter has chosen to unlearn these lessons, much to my and his family’s heartbreak and distress. We have been silent up until now, but now we see that this was a mistake. It was the silence of good people that allowed the Nazis to flourish the first time around, and it is the silence of good people that is allowing them to flourish now.

    Peter Tefft, my son, is not welcome at our family gatherings any longer. I pray my prodigal son will renounce his hateful beliefs and return home. Then and only then will I lay out the feast.

    His hateful opinions are bringing hateful rhetoric to his siblings, cousins, nieces and nephews as well as his parents. Why must we be guilty by association? Again, none of his beliefs were learned at home. We do not, never have, and never will, accept his twisted worldview.

    He once joked, “The thing about us fascists is, it’s not that we don’t believe in freedom of speech. You can say whatever you want. We’ll just throw you in an oven.”

    Peter, you will have to shovel our bodies into the oven, too. Please son, renounce the hate, accept and love all.

    http://www.inforum.com/opinion/lett...-denounces-teffts-racist-rhetoric-and-actions
     
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    :roflol:
    Not attacking Americans, fighting vermin.
     
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    Bull S**t.

    Nazi and KKK have killed far more Americans than any Muslim terrorist ever dreamed of. And you brush it off as if they were some kind of cuddly teddy bear. Pure Bull s**t.
    Would you stand by and let Al Qaida march down your streets unopposed? Well you just gave a pass to the lowest form of crap that ever drew sights on American soldiers. Be ashamed. You are not worthy.
     
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    So far as I can tell, some on the left agitated the situation all through out, undoubtedly prompting the crazy nazi from Ohio to plow into a crowd of them. It takes two to tango.
     
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    Who's supporting them besides their own, in which there are pathetically few? There are more BLM supporters and they've killed more in the past few years.
     
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    "that attached activists of peace and anti-fascism"

    I just watched a video of one of these "peaceful" antifa terrorists running up to some of the ralliers and try to set them on FIRE with a home made flamethrower. Who the actual **** are you trying to fool? Yourself?
     
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    Awwww Poor Orange Blotus.

    There were two sides in Charlottesville.

    Racists and those that opposed them.One of those opposed was KILLED by a racist

    You're siding with Trump and the racist murderers
     
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    No, this piece is of my own doing, I didn't copy and paste it from anywhere. Nice try to pin it on the media.

    There was a great segment on Hardball as to Trump catering to the white nationalist movement. Dating before the election last yearC the heat really turned up on Trumps hostile approach towards Obama and whether or not he is a natural born citizen.

    If you're a white nationalist, the notion of a black president keeps you up at night, and you crave conspiracy theories like birtherism. When Trump announced his running for the WH, his remarks toward Mexicans catered to the white nationalist crowd.

    If you're a white nationalist, a descendent from European countries, you want policies that affect the Muslim and Latino communities. It's not hard to see how Trump was the ideal white nationalist candidate.
     
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    I'm offended.

    I love Red Solo Cups.
     
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    No, I detest racism. So does Trump, and Trump's the President. And antifa do not oppose racism, they have their own little bigotries they keep pleasantly hidden, except when they attack others. They're not even clever hypocrites. Their hypocrisy is plain to see, as is the hypocrisy of the country.
     
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    Did you feel the same when it was the racists killing white people in Dallas?
     
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