Wrong to blame all Muslims for terrorism; Right to blame all white supremacists for Charlottesville

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  1. TheGreatSatan

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    Jihadist preach "death to the Jews" = Leftist give them a total pass. Give them billions of dollars and a path to nuclear weapons.

    KKK preach "death to the Jews" = Leftist attack them with clubs and burn all their stuff in piles

    0 standards, 0 credibility

    The KKK should convert to Islam, and the left will defend them and justify their actions.
     
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    Search up International Freedom Battalion.

    ANTIFA are literally fighting jihadists in Syria.
     
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    I think that automation makes socialism inevitable.
     
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    Good, contribute more to the war against jihadist extremists, and let LEO's deal with white supremacists.
     
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    I doubt it. How many Antifa have died in combat? Besides, attacking Jihadist makes them Islamophobes.

    I remember just a few years back, liberal kids were running off to join ISIS. Now they are running off to fight ISIS?
     
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    I WISH you were right, that god/Jesus was NOT such a scum-bag that he sends all decent, ethical, hard-working non-believers (including Jews!) to "hell"! Unfortunately, god/Jesus was scum, based on many many many verses:

    Acts 4:12, 2 Thessalonians 1:1-10, John 3:18, John 10:27-28, Matthew 10:32, Luke 12:8, John 5:2, John 3:36, John 6:47, Acts 16:31, Romans 10:9, Revelation 19:20, 20:10,14-15, 21:8, John 15:6: Jesus said “Unless a person remains united with me, he is thrown away like a branch and dries up. Such branches are gathered and thrown into the fire, where they are burned up."

    Matthew 13:41-42, 49-50 - The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    Mark 9:43, 48-49 - And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’ For everyone will be salted with fire.
    Matthew 22:13 - Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    Matthew 8:12 - while the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    Matthew 25:46 - And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
    Revelation 14:9-11; 19:3 - If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.
    Luke 12:5 - But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!
     
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    You have examples other than the big bad righties?
     
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    Just a quick search through this forum can answer than question.
     
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    You're just afraid.
     
  12. Polydectes

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    So show me the people who claimed all Muslims are terrorists. If it is such a easy task
     
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    You mean besides Brewskier?
     
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    Show me the post where he said all Muslims were terrorists
     
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    I still think you still don't quite understand what you are writing here, but that's to be expected. It's a bit like Nicodemus, when Jesus told him you had to be born again (in John 3) to get into heaven, Nicodemus thought that that was crazy and misunderstood what Jesus meant. He asked how could a man enter a second time into the womb to be born again. We laugh a little now, but people today do the same thing all the time with stuff in the Bible. They take things that are referring to spiritual realities and try to understand them in a non-spiritual kind of way. Peter said this of Paul: He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction." (2 Peter 3: 16)

    Regarding hell, it's not a literal fire. At least not fire in the sense that we think of it. It wouldn't be pleasant, true. But actually the Bible says that God is a consuming fire (From Hebrew), and that God is love. Fire can be good--it can warm you, but it can also be unpleasant, it can burn you. The idea is that God is love and that people will see the glory of God in the next life, and how you experience God's glory (as a pleasant or unpleasant thing) is up to you. It's sort of like this--let me compare the afterlife to liverwurst. Now, let's say you HATE liverwurst and the idea of having to eat liverwurst is completely horrible to you. However, it's also unavoidable. It's coming. Well, God comes along and says, "Good news! I can give you a rebirth, and after you are born again, what WOULD have been an unpleasant experience will actually be delightful to you. You will learn to love it!" Then the experience wouldn't be so bad. It doesn't have to be wrath. The after-life can be pleasant but it requires a transformation.

    And what is outer darkness? Darkness is not a created thing. God can't create darkness because darkness is not created. Darkness is the ASBENSE of something. The absence of light. Light IS a created thing. God is light (in a spiritual sense), and he has created light (light as we think of it in this world). He has not created darkness because darkness is not a created thing. So hell is like an absence of God. If people don't want God, they are choosing the absence, which is darkness. Just as being born again is a spiritual thing, not a physical thing, this isn't referring to physical light as we think of it. But I think maybe you are getting the point I'm trying to make, that we don't entirely know what heaven and hell are. We think of them according to things with which we are familiar (like light, darkness, fire, etc.). And they have similar traits in that darkness is the absence of light, hell is the absence of God, but our understanding of these things is not complete. You know, "We see as through a glass, darkly..."

    So, those who go to hell in one sense have chosen in. It might not seem that way, but consider, would heaven be a pleasant place for people who hate Christ, Christianity, all he stands for? They are like my analogy above--they hate liverwurst, so why would subjecting them to it be an act of love? THEY DON'T WANT IT! Heaven and God are inseparable. If people who aren't born again were to go to heaven, it wouldn't be any better because they have no taste for it. Also, people who feel guilty about things often feel a weird sort of desire to punish themselves. In the next life, with all pretenses cast down, people will see themselves as they are and demand what they deserve out of a desire for pure justice. After all, by rejecting grace/mercy (Christ), they have, like Shylock in The Merchant of Venice, demanded justice instead. And they will get it.

    “There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, in the end, 'Thy will be done.' All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened.”
    C. S. Lewis
     
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    So you couldn't find a post where you said all Muslims are terrorists?

    That's what I thought.
     
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    That's a crock, as this apparent "loving" person ("monster", really) is so UNloving that that psycho slaughtered virtually ALL humans in his barbaric genocidal "flood" (likely more than even the 6 million killed in another psycho's genocide - Hitler!) When a person is even more evil than Hitler it's time to leave him, of course. And he kills innocent first-born sons in Egypt....uh he could have, being "all-powerful", just reasoned with the people he was trying to punish, but I guess he's not loving enough to do that.
    This unloving psycho also "blesses" those that smash BABIES against rocks....pure evil! Do the evil beings in most horror movies (as an example) even do that!? No!
    "How blessed will be the one who grabs your babies and smashes them on a rock! " - Psalm 137:9.
     
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    You're trying to defend a genocidal maniac, I'm afraid.
     
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    Or, or if the KKK had BROWN OR BLACK skin then of course the left would give them a complete pass - being so oppressed by the evil white man and whatnot....
     
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    So you say. You didn't refute anything.

    I made it CLEAR that people get what they choose. It's the sowing and reaping principle. Whatever a man sows, that he will reap. If you don't like carrots, then don't plant them. A man who goes to prison shouldn't complain that "You people are taking away my freedom!" No. YOU took away your own freedom when you committed a crime.

    Make what excuses you will. Good luck with that.
     
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    But an ethical, hard-working, great person who just happens to be born into a HINDU family will burn in hell (according to many many Biblical verses)! He's NOT "reaping what he sows", because in this example he's sowing wonderful things in his life. God/Jesus are patently unfair! Being a Hindu (or Buddhist, etc.) is not a "crime", so a Hindu shouldn't be punished for it! God/Jesus have failed to be ethical and fair.
     

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