62% of Americans want Confederate statues to remain

Suppose I could be wrong.

It's happened before......

 

That's up to Dallas. If they want to remove them, then bless their hearts they will remove them. What we will not have is a bunch of Communist Antifa Thugs taking to the streets engaging in violence and FORCING the good citizens of of Dallas to remove statues.

We have two extremist groups in conflict, Antifa and the White Nationalists/Nazis. But neither group is going to be what ultimately drives future escalation.

Antifa is the spark meant to inflame the country. But Antifa is small. The only way to build upon their initial is to create a raging bonfire fueled by the emotional responses of more moderate citizens.

You failed.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/371177.php

 

http://theweek.com/speedreads/71850...ents-peaked-during-jim-crow-civil-rights-eras


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...brate-white-supremacy/?utm_term=.5e5bc2a5c99e

 

I can go for that. The camp I'm a member of bought a one acre piece of land on the side of I-49 to put a flag up at. It's private property and isn't in the way of anyone or anything. More could do the same.

I can't stand seeing a Confederate Flag used as a symbol of being a redneck, like waving on the bed of jacked up honky tonk mud doggin 4x4. That's bad form. I'm a country boy, born and raised, but I'm not a redneck. At least not what they portrayed themselves as in my hometown. When I see **** like that, I wanna take that flag, roll it up, slap them on the head with it and then give them a lesson on what the flag really stands for. I'm not the only one like that. I definitely don't like seeing that flag in the hands of extremists.

 

https://www.facingsouth.org/2015/07/busting-the-myth-that-congress-made-confederate-ve

 

Anything from this century?

 

No we weren't and it's legal in one instance only.

 

Bwahaha! Remember when they said he was standing over her shoulder like a madman trying to intimidate her???

 

And besides the left, nobody cares about, or talks about them either...

 

Oh that MSM and their "fake" polls!

The Trump cult is precious. They rave against "the media" and the consensus of surveys that confirm how repugnant their messiah is to most Americans, but they rally around anything that fits their agenda like nazis around a semblance of a dude who fought against the United States!

 

Sounds like a conflict of interest to me... They should appoint 4 people who aren't partisan on this subject.

 

Yes except these MSM support the removal of the monuments.
This poll did not go their way. Go figure. Probably over 62%

 

Yeah...

 

Libs always seem to find a way to shoot themselves in the foot.

 

It is probable as accurate as all the polls that throw all the Trump cultists into a denialist tizzy, but the vote by the democratically-elected public servants in Charlottesville is the only poll that matters in this case. Declaring what statues you want folks to have somewhere else is not how we allocate statues. Personally, I would not want any monuments to individuals that fought against the United States and attract nazis, klan, and other racists in my town.

 

Trump's people do not agree with you on that. There is concern that dunping Bannon and repudiating the white nationalist movement would be a serious problem for his base.

Today, Breitbart is seriously upset with Bannon being dumped

 

Just what exactly is "their way"????

 

Houston won't last.

Houston Confederate statue once symbolized city's attitude toward Southern cause
By J.R. GonzalesAugust 18, 2017 Updated: August 18, 2017 4:19pm

As of Friday morning nearly 2,500 people have signed a petition by the Houston Young Communist League demanding the removal of "The Spirit of the Confederacy" statue in Sam Houston Park.

Just under 100 years ago, about 5,000 turned out to witness its unveiling, an artistic work the Houston Chronicle described as "a testimonial to the chivalry of the brave heroes who fought and died for the cause of the Confederacy."


In those days, Houston was taking its first steps toward becoming a petrochemical center. Automobiles were a common sight on the street, construction on an electric railway railway to Galveston was in full swing, and work had begun to create the turning basin for the Houston Ship Channel.

But still, it was a Southern city, with segregated societies: one for African-Americans and one for whites. In 1903, City Council ordered separate street car compartments for blacks and whites. The following year, thousands of black voters were removed from the electorate when the city adopted a $2.50 poll tax.
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/loc...federate-statue-once-a-symbol-of-11939529.php

 

Robert E. Lee is catching hell in Tyler, Texas.

"Residents will push for name change at Robert E. Lee High School at Monday Tyler ISD board meeting
Published on Thursday, 17 August 2017 18:59 -

A group of Tyler residents believes now is the time for Tyler Independent School District to change the name of Robert E. Lee High School.

They plan to attend the TISD board of trustees meeting Monday to raise the issue of a possible name change. There also is a change.org petition to keep the name, and that site had more than 1,000 signatures of support as of 5 p.m. Thursday."
http://www.tylerpaper.com/TP-News+L...high-school-at-monday-tyler-isd-board-meeting

 

Will Robert E. Lee be able to survive the attacks?

"Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee's name may be removed from El Paso landmarks
Pablo Villa, El Paso Times Published 6:54 p.m. MT Aug. 16, 2017 | Updated 4:43 p.m. MT Aug. 17, 2017

El Paso is taking steps to remove Robert E. Lee's name from local landmarks, joining a nationwide movement that intensified after a white nationalist rally turned deadly Saturday in Charlottesville, Va.

Heather Heyer was killed when a driver plowed his vehicle into a crowd of counterprotesters. James Alex Fields Jr. was arrested and charged with second-degree murder after the crash, which injured 19 others.

In El Paso, only a few landmarks with Confederate ties exist — Robert E. Lee Road in the East-Central portion of the city links Montana Avenue to Gateway Boulevard West and Lee Elementary School is an El Paso Independent School District campus in Northeast El Paso. In San Jacinto Plaza, a historical marker sits in the northeast section of the park, detailing the city's actions at the outset of the Civil War.

The process to rename the road already has begun.
http://www.elpasotimes.com/story/ne...bert-e-lees-name-el-paso-landmarks/573467001/

 

Did you read all of your link and do your own independent research?

Here's a comment from your link: https://www.facingsouth.org/2015/07/busting-the-myth-that-congress-made-confederate-ve

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/03/confederate-soldiers-american-veterans-by-act-of-congress/

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-72/pdf/STATUTE-72-Pg133-2.pdf

http://shnv.blogspot.com/2015/07/honoring-confederate-flags-and-symbols.html

"Senate Votes Pensions To Confederate Widows
SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES MAY 2, 1958

WASHINGTON, May 1 (UP) -- The Senate passed a bill today that gives pensions, for the first time, to the widows of Confederate veterans. The measure also increases the pensions of widows of veterans in all conflicts before World War I."
http://www.nytimes.com/1958/05/02/archives/senate-votes-pensions-to-confederate-widows.html

 

Madison, Wisconsin, fell.

"Confederate Memorials Being Removed at Wisconsin Cemetery
Mayor in traditionally liberal Madison, Wisconsin, says monuments to Confederate soldiers are being removed because the Civil War was 'a defense of the deplorable practice of slavery'.

Aug. 17, 2017, at 4:15 p.m.

Confederate Memorials Being Removed at Wisconsin Cemetery

The Associated Press
FILE - in this May 29, 2017 file photo, attendees peruse the grave markers in the Confederate Rest section after Memorial Day ceremonies at Forest Hill Cemetery in Madison, Wis. Mayor Paul Soglin says monuments to confederate soldiers are being removed from the cemetery in traditionally liberal Madison, Wisconsin, because the Civil War was "a defense of the deplorable practice of slavery." Soglin made the announcement in a statement Thursday, Aug. 17. (M.P. King/Wisconsin State Journal via AP) THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

By IVAN MORENO, Associated Press

MILWAUKEE (AP) — The mayor in traditionally liberal Madison, Wisconsin, has ordered the removal of a cemetery's monuments to Confederate soldiers, saying the Civil War was "a defense of the deplorable practice of slavery" and "an act of insurrection and treason."

One of them, a plaque called "Confederate Rest" that lauds the Confederate soldiers buried at the Forest Hill Cemetery as "valiant," was taken down Wednesday. The other, a large stone monument that lists the names of the soldiers, will require heavy machinery to be removed, Mayor Paul Soglin told The Associated Press on Thursday.

"We will reinstall a proper marker with their names but one that does not speak of the Civil War as an act of heroics by the Confederate insurrection," Soglin said.

His decision to have the monuments taken down comes as cities nationwide are removing Confederacy-related ones following last weekend's deadly confrontations at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia."

Keep them coming, hundreds to go.

 

That 38% is taking it to the 62%.

"Richmond needs to lead on this': Councilman to seek removal of city's Confederate monuments; Stoney explains reversal
By MARK ROBINSON Richmond Times-Dispatch 23 hrs ago

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/...cle_899d56ed-dbde-5460-a129-d73867c81485.html

 

No, the right talks about them, too.

That includes congressmen, business leaders, his own advisers - not just the general public.

You'd just like to suggest that all those who object to Trump's anti-Americanism are "the left". But, that's fake logic.

 

Confederate statues are not a huge deal to me and I care more about actual policies. But I disagree with the majority. I don't think we should celebrate the confederacy because their actions were treason against the united states and they fought against our great nation and one big reason they did was to protect slavery which was a racist abomination against human rights. Slavery wasn't the only thing they represented but killing jews wasn't the only thing Hitler represented. I could forgive their faults if it was a fault of their times and they actually contributed in some way, but there was major resistance to slavery and they were on the wrong side of it, and they didn't help our country, they fought against out country and against our values. We should replace confederate statues with statues of Abe Lincoln, he was the real hero.