Why is everyone so opposed to white nationalism?

1. You can speculate what you want about the future. However, speculating isn't debating.
2. Do you claim to know what strangers want to do?

How about if they form a brand-new country with a brand-new constitution?

I am afraid this is not for you to worry about.

1. Prove that (most) racist behavior is unlawful.
2. Prove that racist behavior is immoral.
3 You still haven't explained what gives you the moral authority to change people's beliefs and alter their behaviors.

 

Yet white liberals are primarily the ones not reproducing. Go figure.

 

I must've missed something (I didnt read the whole thread).
What 'seperation' are you proposing?

I could support a group of whites (or anyone) splitting from society and creating their own 'whites only' nation, provided that no one was forced or coerced off their land, stolen from or otherwise violated in the process.

 

A country that will be shunned and hated by the rest of the world? I'd give it a life expectancy shorter than Trump's presidency. Whatever time it takes for them to get fed up eating coconuts and octopus meat, or whatever resources there are on the isolated unmapped Island in the South Pacific where they build that "country"

Read the Preamble to COTUS and the DOI. Read Civil Rights Act of 1964. Read Universal Declaration of Human Rights. For your particular "brand" of racism (which is not actual racism, but just shallowness), read Fair Housing Act. There's more but, that should be enough reading material given that you will be unlikely to read it anyway.

My the above response contains there is more than enough proof. And I have provided additional proof to you at least 5 times. What I haven't been able to do is get you to learn what "immoral" means... As a matter of fact, I haven't even been able to get you to learn what the word "racist" means. Despite the fact that it's as easy as pointing you to the dictionary. I can prove whatever you want. I can't force you to read the proof, though.

That's because this is a strawman. The moral authority doesn't belong to me.. It belongs to the community of human beings.

Again: racist beliefs are something that only concerns you and your psychiatrist. Racist behavior is the concern of all of Society.

Now, if you want to know what gives Society the right to change people's racist behavior, there are many many things that gives society that right. And I have pointed them out to you . But here's one that shouldn't be too difficult to understand: What gives society the right to change racist behavior is World War II. Racism lost. Anti-racism won. That is not the only answer, but it's more than enough of a reason.

 

This is just speculation. Speculation is not an argument.

Quote literal passages from these documents that say, racism is illegal.

You really don't get the idea that the government should not make laws to control people's private behaviors.

Why should I read the stuff that YOU think is important? How would you feel if I told you that you need to read more stuff on the Stormfront?

Nope. Just rattling off a few laws and suggesting that I read them does not constitute proving.

Just because I disagree with you on what immoral means it doesn't mean I don't know what it means. The fact remains you haven't proven why racism is immoral. You are just screaming that it is.

I do know what racist means. I just disagree with your definition. Also, stop saying things like I need to "learn" whatever. You are not in the position to tell me to do that.

Also, I can also turn your argument on its head and say that YOU need to learn what "racist" means.

I HAVE consulted dictionaries. And I am saying that sometimes some of them contradict with each other and other times it seems the editors don't know what they are talking about.

You sure act like you rely on the dictionaries to tell you what to think, though.

I think otherwise. I have given you plenty of chances to prove your assertions, but you haven't done jack.

Except that what you have posted so far does not constitute proof. You like to think it does, though.

Prove it.

1. Define the community of human beings.
2. Prove that the community of human beings have the moral authority to change some people's beliefs and alter their behaviors.

Funny you should say this, because I think YOU are the one with a mental illness.

Kindly refrain from implying that I have a mental illness. This is a personal attack and against the rules on this board.

Prove that it is.

Such as?

First of all, I think the States fought on the wrong side in WW2. Secondly, you like to let historical events tell you what to think. I think this is sad, and not just that, but also very possibly a symptom of an underlying mental illness on your part.

You should go see a psychiatrist, Golem.

 

You are the one that needs to see a psychiatrist. You claimed to be an Asian but yet you don't have any self respect for you and have no respect for your fellow Asians. Asians like me have seen enough racism to last me two lifetimes. You are sitting from the comfort of your own home spouting these nonsensical ideas which you have not experienced. I would suggest you travel to the many areas where white nationalists are dominant and see how you are treated. Visiting a WN's website is not helpful and I will not learn anything new. I've met WN's up close and personal. Even had conversations with them and they all come back to one thing...that I don't belong here. Excuse me but the earth belongs to all humans. And that alone give me the "moral authority" to live where ever I choose. If people like you or the WN's don't want to be near me, you are free to move, but know this. You are in the MINORITY. Don't know why you play suck up to the WN's. They don't want to deal with you, they don't want to be near you, they don't want to be your friend.

The fact that you wished that you were white tells me everything I need to know.

 

History is. A very strong argument.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men [people] are created equal..."

Racism is not a private behavior.

Because you asked. I can't think of a single thing that you could teach me.

Now, I really "love" what follows. To anybody who just happens to read this, I swear I'm not making up this exchange. Look at the corresponding posts above and see for yourself.

Wan: " Prove that (most) racist behavior is unlawful."
Golem: "Read the Preamble to COTUS and the DOI. Read Civil Rights Act of 1964. Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Fair Housing Act"
Wan (on this message): "Just rattling off a few laws and suggesting that I read them does not constitute proving."

Really!...

I think that about sums it up.

Not long ago Facebook placed bots in its chats, which fooled many people into thinking they were real human beings. So I only have one request for Wan: Please write the following literally "I am not a robot" Just checking....

 

You can cry as loudly as you want about how accurately you think history can predict the future. This still does not change the fact that what you are doing is speculating. And apparently you think speculating about future events amounts to debating.

It literally says "men", not people. Therefore I guess we can draw the conclusion that women are not created equal and we can deprive them of rights.

Further, you are free to let documents written by people have been dead for hundreds of years tell you what to think. I think I will let my own brain do my thinking for me.

Prove it.

I believe I also asked you, very politely and for many many times, to keep your opinions and impressions to yourself. So why do you not oblige?

Also, *I* think there is not a single thing that *YOU* can teach me.

You rattling off a few laws and historical documents indeed does NOT constitute proving. In fact, I am starting to get the idea that you probably have never had to prove anything before in your life. This is why you are struggling so badly with this concept.

Lol. You are being schooled by a "bot". What does that say about your intellectual abilities?

 

OK. Show me where it say "white" men. Too bad, so sad that you are woman then. Since I'm a man, I get to do what I want, live where I want.

 

I don't think this is true. In fact, I would argue that the governments of pretty much all of the world's countries disagree with you. Case in point: you can't just go to a country, say Germany, or maybe even Mexico, and say to them "the earth belongs to all humans. So now make me a citizen of your country". Sorry but this simply doesn't happen.

 

Calm down!

"Men" is now generally taken as shorthand for "Humans". That is not even a matter of debate.

It's a bit disturbing that you try to make such a big case of the most trivial matters.

 

From the morality standpoint, it is absolutely true. As for the government, I was under the impression you believe they should not be the arbiter to decide what a person can or cannot do. Are you changing your mind now?

 

To you only.

According to your non-logic, I am entitled to live in your house, because the earth belongs to all humans, and your house is part of the earth. Therefore, I get to live in your kitchen.

Huh? Not sure what you are trying to say. All I said was that the government should not impose its values on the populace.

 

yes.

So?

 

How funny you have to perform logic gymnastic to arrive at this conclusion.

 

You can't decry being called a racist when you openly racist. Just own it.

So you would have no problem with your government paying people with brown skin to have children?

 

Here's another reason:

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