Migrants in the Mediterranean

The problem with most of the migrants is that they come to Europe with an agenda. The boats landing at the Greek islands are predominantly migrants. They make certain they won't be turned back by having one or two children in the boats and try to pass themselves off as Syrians.

Now Turkey is sending over migrants not from the Middle East but from Africa as well. Yesterday one Imam said that the Greek women are all sinners because of the way they dress, (not that he's wrong of course), but it is endangering them, so the situation can only get worse.

In the meantime there are fights going on between migrants from Asia, and those from the Middle East, and Merkle, (bless her little heart), wants to send all the migrants back to Italy and Greece. So what does she expect them to do with them, kill them, or pay their airline fares to return home. The only reason they're in those countries in the first place was to get to Germany.

I think all the countries that destroyed their homelands should be carrying the burden, and not throwing it on others the way they usually do.

 

When thousands of Syrians began crossing into the Greek islands each day, they didn't come penniless. They had money and they were getting it from somewhere. For example, a trip across the Aegean cost anywhere from 2 to 10 thousand dollars a person, and they figured that the traffickers were making millions each day.

I don't doubt that some of it went to pay off the Turkish government agents or coast guards, and the ones whose rafts were being overturned, probably didn't accommodate them. I'm only guessing here though. For all I know they might have been Kurds.

Russia checked into the situation and found that the e mails inviting them into Germany, came from California and Britain. Recently I read that Soros had a hand in it, and I don't doubt it since it is his policy, but the major suspect was Saudi Arabia... and they did sell a lot of their assets at that time.

The so called 'think tanks' in Washington, (who are really lobbyists), wanted to break Syria up into ethnic and religious states so as to weaken it. I assume the intent was to have the Syrians return to whatever state had been partitioned for them.

Anyway these are my thoughts on it. Of course I might be wrong.

 

What an unmitigated mess? And I wouldn't be at all surprised if the EU is still making payments to Turkey.

 

What we do know is that the takeover will continue. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10956/european-court-migrants

 

Oh dear, so the cat is out of the bag that there are more to come? I don't think many EU member states will go along with even more enforced quotas; one of the east European members (Romania, if I recall correctly - oh, and I think Poland too) is already defying the penpushers of Brussels - who next? So much for the bureaucratization of Europe!

 

Eastern Europeans are rebelling while Western Europe will have real long-term problems. http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-europe-are-mistaken-muslim-migration-serious

 

And when the mierda hits the fan on the streets of Europe those who caused the upheaval will do a runner to some idyllic paradise to spend more time with their money. Blimey, and we ain't see nothin' yet. An appropriate time to change my sig . . .

 

Do you see anything like a civil war in the future? A Brit friend of mine, at least five years ago, predicted there would be.

 

I don't have the time right now so I'll get back to you later. But it isn't looking good.

 

I think there are a few problems on the horizon: if the EU starts chucking its weight around by lording it over the other members with demands and diktats, one by one the governments will tell them to take a hike and then 'do a Brexit'. If this immigration shows no sign of ending - indeed it shows every sign of increasing - and cracks begin to show in the individual nations' social services, crime figures mount up because the various police forces can no longer keep up/the penal systems can't accommodate any more criminals, and hospital waiting lists start to increase under the sheer weight of numbers, then I believe there will be general popular uprisings of the indigenous populaces. And if the bureaucrats have been hyping up the financial situation - I don't think the accounts of the EU have ever been signed off - and the single currency crashes and burns, well I guess that would be the worst of both worlds as far as this ill-conceived and misbegotten project is concerned?

 

Sorry, but I have to contradict you in large parts!

Of course, I disagree with the EU and its way of forcibly marrying the members of a sort of "USA 2.0" and here again we have to go back a bit!

But as far as the distribution of the refugees is concerned, and the refusal of the Eastern Europeans, I have zero understanding for these idiots! It was a legal majority decision and their reaction is simply childish ... because like a little child what does not get his will in other children enforced and then says "then I will not play with you"! Ridiculous ... and then, on the other hand, to keep the hand on the billions from Brussels and not to fulfill these and other obligations.

I personally am in favor of founding the EU again, and here only with the old core and founding countries ... France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Italy. Every other member has to be thoroughly selected and a lot of prerequisites have to be fulfilled. Quarreling and smarties like the Eastern Europeans and the British, or the rusted states, which are too stupid to build up functioning governments and systems like Greece remain outside ... no matter whether they are pure or not!

In short: another sort of "Brexit" ... kick out of the unwilling weakheads by the EU who are not capable to be team players and to accept majority decisions!

 

However you re-model the EU it would still be run by bureaucrats, and bureaucrats always **** up everything they become involved in because they're stupid, lazy, greedy, and totally self-serving. It was never a good idea, and has always been doomed to abject failure.

 

I do not think so!
Any form, whether state, company or whatever needs a bureaucracy and administration. Of course, this can not be a water head, but it is important.
More important than the bureaucracy is the form of the decisions and who makes them and how they are made. The bureaucracy is then responsible for the implementation and also requires the executive rights to enforce these decisions!

I also know that in Brussels is a water head and there are countless examples for idiotic things from Brussels where one has to ask in the harmless case simply, if the nothing better on the work to do than to deal with such a Crap.
But instead of questioning the whole thing and abolishing it, one should perhaps simply tackle the nonsense in the system!

And in the case of UK I have now zero compassion and zero understanding what the Brexit is concerned ....
When I look at all the BS which was told by Farrage and Johnson before the referendum, and how many idiots have apparently believed them to be true (or why else did they vote for the Brexit?), I must really ask for the IQ of usual British people!
1 example:

With a Brexit we are over with the flood of regulations of Brussels and have nothing to do with them anymore...

What a lie! Any single piece you want to export into the EU has to match this flood of regulations further or you can forget it to sell inside the EU! But now as non-member is a little difference given indeed ... you have only to follow them, but not a spark of right to decide about them!

 

For example, the American Indians did not pay attention to the flow of refugees from Europe ..... now they live in reservations ..... Now Europeans do not pay attention to the flow of migrants. History shows what consequences Europeans expect.

 

Europeans need very very little reason to have a war

 

EU is less than quater of the world economy. And while being in EU UK couldn't negotiate its own trade deals with other countries. So I think UK will win from Brexit in the long run.

 

Actually we are a net importer from EU, so EU will have to comply with our regulations.
EU will no longer have a say in them.

 

EU has about 17% part, USA about 12% and China about 18% of world economy ... I wouldn't rate the EU part as small ...
And because the majority of British Exports are dependant on the Entry to the EU market, there must be first some alternatives be found.
Also ... 19% of British economy is only a producing one... and majority is oil and finance where of the latter one reduces offices in London due to brexit!

 

Yep, true ... your are a net importer in moment, but how important are you for other EU countries and their economy in comparison how important EU market is for British economy? Ask your self this serious question and find a honest answer for your own, no matter if you like Brexit or not!

 

He predicted most of this but also said that id the politicians and police didn't do their job vigilante groups would be formed. We may see more of this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inst-country-s-growing-Muslim-population.html

 

Unlike the US, they don't even need a reason, a lie big and stupid enough always does the trick.

 

They do seem to have a habit of falling for new fixes, don't they? So many examples of hope triumphing over experience. Fascism, Communism, Nazism, the EU, Socialism, Multiculturalism, all acted with a chorus of anti-Americanism in the background.

 

And here's me thinking it's all hunky-dorey in Australia - which I can be forgiven for because even though I watch the news all the time, I've never seen any reports of the discontent reported in your link. Obviously the political classes are keeping a lid on the actualite.

 

Perhaps the Aussie media is becoming more like the US MSM. https://www.theguardian.com/austral...from-islamist-terrorism-after-melbourne-siege

 

History would bear that out, despite their governments not allowing the citizens, apart from the Swiss, to arm themselves. Or it could be because the citizens can't arm and protect themselves.