Well it's been fun guys. I'm off the Trump train.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by RiseAgainst, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's a lot of people making money off of drugs.
    The shadow economy might be as large as the real one.
    It's certainly big enough to affect the national interest, and a wall would hit it hard.
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry, he'll drift right back over this soon enough and then all the Trumpnotized will line up behind him again
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Is anyone really stupid enough to think he meant a real wall?
     
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    If drugs from Mexico that important and Trump thinks they are necessary to the economy, then...

    I might even agree with you on this because you can't turn on the TV without seeing a commercial for some drug that probably doesn't even get you all that high. Americans have turned into the world's biggest drug addicts.

    and that's one hell of a kick in the ass for Americans to realize. Either too fat or too stupid or too high to make anything of themselves, so they just gave up, and Trump isn't in the white house to keep heroin from kids hooked on heroin. I really don't know why he's there, to be honest, but he's there nonetheless.
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    That will take at least 18 years, wont' it?
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Everything is about him in his eyes, always has been, always will be.
     
  7. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    YEPP.
     
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  8. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you are confused at all. I think that down deep, you know what is going on:

    1.) Trump cares about no one but himself. He expects loyalty from all, gives none in return.

    2.) He is the epitome of selfishness. And greed. And ego without end.

    3.) All he wants to do is to eliminate everything Obama and claim a win, cost what it will.

    4.) He is really not a very smart person, just a very rich person who has used and abused to get to the top and was advised to use racist dogwhistles in order to shore up a sagging campaign.

    5.) He is also not a very good communicator and is often very awkward in what he does, and because he is like this, he often ruins what could have otherwise been a good moment for him.

    6.) He knows nothing of policy:

    We know that he literally BEGGED Pena on the telephone to pay for a wall that he spefically said (in the same conversation) was "the least important thing". in other words, he brazenly lied to his base by saying that the big, beautiful wall was so important. It never was to him. He made a braggadaccio promise he could never, ever keep, but the angry ones in his base loved it and ate it up like candy.

    Same thing with DACA: he rescinded Obama's EO because he hates Obama and wants to wipe any vestige of the black man from the White House (good luck with that one, Donald) but knows that the decision will not sit well with about 70% of people. He also wants to make laughing stocks out of McConnell and Ryan and so he is more than willing to work with two key DEMS, both of whom he has also trashed in twitter more than once, in order to give McConnell and Ryan black eyes. You see, it's not about policy.

    He doesn't give a **** about policy. It is about Donald Trump and Donald Trump alone. He is the most extreme egomaniac I have witnessed in my entire life. And that has nothing to do with party. if Trump thought he could have awakened such an ugly ultra-nationalistic base with the Democrats, he would have run as a Democrat. The label itself doesn't mean crap to him. And the swamp, as the Breitbarters of the world like to call it, doesn't mean anything to him. All he wants is undying adulation, fame, ***** and alot of money.

    That's the real story about all of this.

    When you realize that it is this easy for him to literally change his colors like a chameleon on DACA, don't be surprised if he wakes up from a bad piece of chocolate cake in the night and decides to nuke somebody somewhere just because his inauguration crowd was not big enough. Yes, he is that mentally instable.

    WE. ARE. SCREWED.
     
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  9. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    This thread is not about DEM voters. Did you read the OP?
     
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    Which "stuff" do you think Trump will get in his negotiation that he campaigned on? The repeal of Obamacare? Mexico to pay for the wall?
     
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    And I expect some are punk drug dealers.
     
  12. TomFitz

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    I've been telling you that and more for two and a half years.

    Trump stands for nothing. All he cares about is being the center of attention in the here and now.
     
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    With the voice of a petulant spoiled nine year old bully!
     
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    You can forget that.

    There will be no wall.

    But what Trump will do is continue to point to a collection of "demonstration projects" like the ones the right wing noise machine has been promoting.

    Democrats will let that continue, in the knowledge taht having a dozen fifty foot long wall prototypes will be enough to pull the racist base's chain, while never actually building a wall.
     
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    Yeah, the admin is too much for it to be completed without buy-in from the bureaucracy.
     
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    Sorry to break your narratives, but the explanation of "Trump only cares about his ego" makes no sense. If glory is all he's after, he should go down fighting and get impeached for no reason by the swamp. If he does that he'll be hailed as a hero by his base. That would *actually* glorify his ego.
    Cucking out is NOT an ego-glorifying move. On the exact contrary. It's admitting defeat.

    And to all the people going "We told you so, good for you for seeing the light", you should stop glorifying yourselves, because you were completely wrong in everything you said. All you ever said was "Trump has no idea what he's doing, he's unstable and unfit to run a country". Instead, we're seeing someone who's consistently following the agenda of his opponents against his base, like following a script written by the Democrats. Nothing erratic about that. Deliberately shooting yourself in the foot is masochism, not incompetence.

    These are the actions of someone who's being controlled or even blackmailed. Not of an "incompetent egomaniac". Either he's not actually running the country and simply following orders from the people who are, or he's being emotionally abused by his relatives, e.g Ivanka and Jared.
     
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    Did you just get that explained to you by some Trump apologist on Fox news?

    How can you live with that kind of whiplash? One day, Trump is the devil, next day, oh, it is all okay because it is some super secret plan to get everything achieved he promised -- MAGA again. The truth is: You'll be very disappointed again in him in the future - bigly.

    In reality, there is no secret ingredient (ever watched KungFu Panda?). And, unlike KungFu Panda, Trump does not have inner strength. He needs constant attention and people telling him how great he is to compensate for his inner emptiness.

    Whatever is going on in the WH, it is clear that this ship is without rudder. Direction being changed on a daily basis. Democrats may be celebrating today, but tomorrow he'll change his mind and throw it all in reverse. No direction, no principle, flip-flopping, keeping everyone guessing -- how can that be good for the economy, let alone for the country?

    Trump critics have seen these things all along the campaign and have warned.
     
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    Liberals are the ones holding the "dreamers" hostage.

    Close the door to new "dreamers" before demanding special treatment for the illgal aliens kids that are here now
     
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    Congress can stick their ego up their ass for all I care

    The American people - 62 million of them who voted for trump - are the ones that congress is snubbing by not funding the wall
     
  20. TomFitz

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    Nonsense.

    Unlike most of the people on this forum, I actually knew who Trump was thirty years ago.

    First of all, he does not have a set of set beliefs, other than the short term advancement and adulation of one Donald Trump.

    He has taken contradictory positions on almost every major issue over the years. In his 2016 campaign, he routinely did it from one day to the next.
     
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    Much of that makes no sense. And the use of white supremacist rhetoric is not welcome.

    Anyone who has watched Trump knows that his glorifcation and his ego come first.

    "If glory is all he's after, he should go down fighting and get impeached for no reason by the swamp."

    This makes no sense at all. As if he could control whether he will be impeached or not!

    I expect that if he does get impeached he will do just that, and he will take as many people down with him as he can.

    Mitch McConnell is the one man in Washington who will decide whether Trump is impeached. Trump would be well advised to bear that in mind.
     
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    White supremacist rhetoric? ROFL. This is a complete joke at that point. Disagree with an anti-Trumper, have your words called "white supremacist" for no reason at all.

    Maybe you're on the side of the clinically insane folks who think "drain the swamp" means "kick out all the black people"? LOL.


    Even if that were true, "he did this for his ego" makes no sense whatsoever for the DACA case, since being hated by your own base is the exact opposite of "glorifying your ego". You'll have to find another explanation.


    If he plays the puppet and follows the agenda like the globalist crowd wants him to, they'll no longer want to impeach him.
     
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    No sorry I don't watch Fox News I'm a millennial so that means I don't watch Boomer sources.
     
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    Sadly, Trump is simply trash.
     
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    Why do you think so?
     

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