Putin and his New World Mess

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    Putin and his New World Mess

    The postwar World Order, finally formed with the adoption of the Helsinki Accord, with the paragraph on the inviolability of borders in Europe, ordered a long life. In February 2014, Russian troops invaded Ukraine with the subsequent annexation of Crimea and the siege of the South-Eastern part of Ukraine, which Moscow renamed into Novorossiia. The fact of violation of the Helsinki agreement is obvious. Moreover, Moscow showed impudent cunning by signing the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 to be the guarantor of the territorial integrity and political independence of Ukraine in exchange for the transfer of Russia's nuclear arsenal. It is unlikely that Russia would have decided to attack Ukraine, which has intercontinental missiles with separated warheads and medium-range missiles, and even those packed with nuclear weapons. By the way, the bitter experience of Ukraine may well have spurred the DPRK to hurry with the acquisition of nuclear weapons and their means of delivery.

    Russia's neglect of international treaties and commitments to please Putin's revanchist aspirations to restore the empire in its former borders, in fact, denounces the postwar world order, of which Russia is the founder, together with the United States and Great Britain. In other words, the results of the Yalta conference on changing borders, along with the Helsinki agreements, are recognized as invalid and have no legal force. As a consequence of Russia, Germany, Poland, Finland, Romania, Hungary will want to return to their former pre-war borders. Also, Japan will demand to return to it not only the Kuril Islands, but also Southern Sakhalin, which withdrew to the USSR in accordance with the decisions of the same Yalta Conference.

    Putin opened a fatal, primarily for Russia, Pandora's box. And now Moscow accuses Washington of gross violation of international law, namely, encroachment on the immunity of Russian diplomatic institutions. As they say, having removed a head on hair do not cry. And exactly what Putin expected, correct the established world order. Does Putin think that only he is allowed to play by primitive rules, and all others are simply obliged to observe the principles of morality and tolerance. President Obama was too intelligent and tolerant of the bandit tricks of the Petersburg hooligan, not stopping the arrogant nagger in time, although already from the first steps of Putin in power (1) it was clear who he really is. Only the soulless cynic, devoid of conscience and morality, a man on the question of what happened to your submarine, could answer without a shadow of sorrow on his face "she drowned." No words of regret for the dead sailors who could possibly have been saved if the Chekist Putin did not prefer to give up the proposed international assistance to the choking people who knocked on the corps for hours in the hope that they would be heard. Yes they were heard, the submarine lay at a depth of only 108 meters, with the length of the boat itself at 154 meters, but did not do anything in time to save.

    It is high time for the international community to realize who the liar Putin is and what his Lies Empire is (2,3) and not become like a liar, plunging the World into chaos and into a war that may prove to be the last for Humanity.

    1. Chechnya and the road to power, or the rebirth of the empire by Putin. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/?skip=100#post-alikbahshi-2151
    2. The Empire of Lies and its first liar. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/?skip=50#post-alikbahshi-22317
    3. Russia is the most aggressive country. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/#post-alikbahshi-32531

    09/08/17.
     
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    The Russians have never truly evolved....culturally, historically, psychologically.
     
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    Putin expelled hundreds of American diplomatic staffers from Russia prior to the closure of the Russian consulate in San Diego, which is a usual diplomatic game played between hostile nations. I think there is no such thing as the sanctity of diplomatic and consular premises, except for the case of Julian Assange, who had been harbored at the Embassy of Ecuador in London.

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    And what is it not to violate important agreements between the countries is not sacred?
     
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    You're again lying. :)
    Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons, because the US demanded it.
     
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    A great example of a complete lack of logic. This is not about the destruction of nuclear weapons, but about the Budapest Memorandum and the deception of Russia. If Ukraine had nuclear weapons and means of delivery, then Putin would not dare to attack Ukraine.
     
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    So what art form has the US ever given the world?
     
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    Elvis Presley, marilyn Monroe, James Dean, Humphrey Bogart, Bing Crosby, frank Sinatra, Hollywood(LA), Broadway (NYC), just to name a few...
     
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    Movie-making and recording songs aren't art forms though, they're merely a part of the entertainment industry. They're pleasant enough to watch and listen to, but they don't move anyone emotionally.
     
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    US Ambassador to Russia John Huntsman said that the way to improve relations lies through Ukraine. This issue concerns not only the US, but also Europe, Canada and virtually every other developed country. "

    "My main goal is to restore confidence between the two nuclear superpowers. However, the first step towards this should be the return of Ukrainian control within internationally recognized borders. "

    From this it follows that let Putin not hope for the restoration of previous relations with the West. Putin, violating the postwar world order and deceiving Ukraine along with the United States and Europe in the promises signed in the Budapest memorandum, lost confidence, and today there is hardly a politician who will negotiate something with Putin.
     
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    I see that Alik is still on his anti-Russia propoganda run. Good to see that nobody is taking him seriously still.
     
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    I try to please you.
     
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    Not that up on Russia but I can see why Putin doesn't want any more of past Russian territory going to Islam.
    And like Obama said in his Ayers written book " I will stand with the Muslims if the political winds shift in an ugly direction" so of course he was on the side of lslam against Putin. Now what is Putin up to far as world matters I don't know. he could be working with NWO or maybe not, no idea.

    Far as Putin letting the sailors die that was damn right evil. We here in USA had the means to save them and offered but was refused. I can't imagine his reasoning.
     
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    No but ballet and music does move people.:clapping:. So do play writes and building structures. Anyway who cares about art done by a mentally deranged pitiful man like Van Gogh. Now the super natural painting of The Sistine Chapel by Michelangelo should be one of the wonders of the world,imo. :applause:
     
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    <" Back when I was a senator, my colleague Russell Long had a favorite retort for someone speechifying against him in the Finance Committee. "Well, your lips say, ‘No, no, no,’" Russell would say, "but your eyes say, ‘Yes, yes, yes!’" I’ve thought a lot about Russell and the perils of miscommunication recently as I’ve tried to untangle a mystery that has bothered me — and tainted U.S. relations with Russia — for nearly two decades: Just how exactly did the United States end up expanding NATO into Eastern Europe after the Cold War, when NATO’s ostensible purpose would seem to have expired along with the Soviet Union itself?

    The Russians insist that NATO expansion violated an explicit promise made by the first Bush administration; the Americans have not only denied it, but seem quite unaware of how much this dispute has haunted U.S. dealings with Russia. During a trip to Moscow, Mikhail Gorbachev, the last Soviet leader, told me that during his 1990 negotiations with U.S. Secretary of State James Baker about Germany’s reunification and the removal of 300,000 Soviet troops from East Germany, the Russians made it clear that they didn’t want German reunification within NATO. The negotiations went back and forth with little progress. Finally, according to Gorbachev, Baker looked at him directly and said, "Look, if you remove your troops and allow unification of Germany in NATO, NATO will not expand one inch to the east."

    When I spoke with Baker, he agreed that he told Gorbachev that if the Soviet Union allowed German reunification and membership in NATO, the West would not expand NATO "one inch to the east." But "the east," for Baker, meant East Germany — not Eastern Europe. The United States later dialed back Baker’s offer even further, saying that legally, if Germany reunified, the White House couldn’t promise no NATO expansion into East Germany. The final compromise was that no "non-German" NATO troops could be in East Germany, but German troops were allowed. According to the American participants in the negotiation, NATO expansion east of Germany didn’t even come up.

    Then, of course, President Bill Clinton expanded NATO to the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland, and President George W. Bush pushed it even further in early 2004. Russia perceived these actions as threatening, and they remain a bone of contention today. As former Russian presidential candidate Grigory Yavlinsky once told me, "We Russians might not understand financial puts and calls, but we do understand tanks."... ">
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2009/08/22/a-diplomatic-mystery/
     
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    Indeed, but especially ballet? Modern conceptual 'art' is the production of pure dross by charlatans with zero talent to fool a gullible public into believing they have. And it obviously works?
     

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