Pay Per Task instead of hourly wages

1) its obviously not against the law in a free country
2) why would it be since wages are competitive in a free country

if someone makes $20.00/hour that might be more or less than they can earn in a non-piece work job. Do you understand?

 

I also remembered something I know this girl who was going to vocational rehab and the state government was paying them by the piece work.

It's not considered a job but....

 

most car mechanics work that way too. And ultimately we all do. if our piece rate is not high enough a competitor puts us out of business.

 

The more I am looking into this the more it looks like you are wrong.



Can my employer pay me a piece rate and not an hourly wage for all hours worked in California?


https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclop...rate-hourly-wage-hours-worked-california.html

 

I didn't know that, I forgot about hairstylist ( but aren't they contractors and rent the chair?) So is car mechanics contractor's also? Or do they get paid minimum wage for standing around?

 

An hourly wage isnt exactly profit sharing. Your labor is simply factored into someone elses profit. In profit sharing, you have the opportunity to make more by being more productive, and you essebtially are a partial owner in the company. I would promote a portion of workers pay (if they agree to it) to be paid in company shares or stakes, so they are actually partial owners.

 

That can be very subjective. For example- I work in maintenance. I dont produce anything. The producers depend on the equipment I maintain and the whole place shuts down if I dont do my job... but figuring out my 'value' on a per job vasis would be a full time number crunching job in and of itself. Someone would have to calculate how valuable it is for the lights to stay working, fittings to stay greased, concrete is sealed... I can only imagine someone trying to assign a dollar amount to those things to figure out how much they should pay me each day, and then how do we figure out the worth of that guys job? Not very productive. Hourly makes more sense. Profit shares makes even more sense.

 

100% absurd, imagine a corporation that paid less for being more productive. Do you know how long that corporation would survive????

 

its 100% profit sharing!! Pay workers more and they get more of what would be profits, pay them less and the corporation gets more profits.

 

absurd of course!! been tried in 1000 different ways in our free market and never works so they don't do it generally

 

not really, most jobs are that way especially in the growing service industry. We know generally how much education, work experience, dedication, etc it takes to do most jobs. When companies don't know this and pay more or less than market they go bankrupt. Do you understand?

 

I've actually paid for piece work myself. It give workers a chance to make their own hours and be in their own homes with kids dogs etc

 

If you're more productive, the company profits more, and thus you profit more.

 

You are trying to simplify it beyond reason. In practice its far more complicated than that.

 

I was piece rate for years as a Directv technician. I had mixed feelings.

One good days I would make $300 in 8-10 hrs, bad $120. I averaged about $240 most days. I always felt like I would get paid whatever my labor was worth. I took pride in being productive. That said, if I had a string of bad days my stress level would start to rise quite a bit.

For paid time off we got our 6 month average as an hourly rate. If there was no work, you did not get paid (this never happened)

 

Not true.

Directv, prior to AT&T purchasing, was a fantastic job that paid piece rate and everyone there loved it. That is to say, everyone except those who were really slow, and they would quit.

 

inspectors are required. They can be piece rate too, or salary. At directv they were hourly with no OT.

another way is to foster an environment were the workers communicate with each other and help each other do good work.

 

not at all. If you pay people more than competition you will probably be driven it bankruptcy. Just like if you pay too much for raw materials, distribution, marketing, or charge too much for your products.

 

For anyone whose job it is to respond to crimes and accidents, there seems to be no specialized model of compensation that would encourage them to respond well without motivating malicious behavior. For instance, we don't want cops issuing false citations or arresting innocent people, we don't want firemen starting fires, and we don't want ambulance medics mugging people or staging traffic accidents. The basic wage or salary model is the only solution.

 

Absurd and 100% liberal of course!! Millions of Americans are self-employed. They get no guarantee that customers will walk in the door every day or every shift. Do you understand?

 

does that mean atheists are empty suits who have no beliefs??

 

No, I don't think you understand. Re-think what you just said, then re-read the original post and get back to me.

 

Absurd and 100% liberal of course!! Millions of Americans are self-employed and thus , in effect, get paid per task. They get no guarantee that customers will walk in the door every day or every shift. Do you understand?

 

No, what I do understand is that both you and I are done discussing this thread. In the future, your attitude will depend on whether or not we discuss any other thread since I will not tolerate your condescending attitude..

 

ever see a conservative or libertarian who has to run from a debate? You wonder why liberals have turned to street violence? Its because debate and logic do not suit them.