Apply background checks for gun purchases to voting

I have to agree and a lot of the entertainment is free. If you really want to gamble this is the place to go. I was off strip at the Rio catching the P&T show and the place is really aging rapidly. It smelled like BO and considering the clientele not surprising.

 

And yet it exists ....so a right can be taxed

 

A product can be taxed, not a right.

 

Oh god I hate semantics

 

How so? How do you tax free speech or the right to remain silent or religious liberty. There is a difference.

 

You pay the tax or you don't get the right. Its that simple

 

That is unlikely to survive judicial review in any form.

 

But it already happens. You must pay a fee to bear arms in public in states like florida

 

And your right to remain silent? To a legal representation? What then?

 

What about them. I never said EVERY right has a tax on it. Just that some rights can

 

You can't pick and choose. A right is a right.

 

Sure you can. WE DO NOW CURRENTLY

 

How so? In my state, open carry is predicated upon possession of a CCW. However this process is not especially expensive or onerous. It does not prevent by any means the purchase or possession of firearms. You can carry them while traveling and keep them within your domicile while doing so.

 

But there is a fee for the right to bear arms in public in your state and thus my point

 

BUT the right already exists. The fee is for the expansion of that right.

 

As I said semantics. Pay the fee or you can not exercise the right

 

The right already exists.

 

And you can have it for a fee

 

We'll just disagree here.

 

You can disagree that the sun will rise in the morning but it is a fact that you can not exercise the right if you don't pay the fee

 

Truth is, every day, States are moving to Vermont style firearms Rights/ permitless / Constitutional carry, no fee required.

 

For a state like Vt. that's a good idea. For some of the Appalachian states, the deep south, NY, NJ, and Penn., not so good.

 

Are their restrictions actually managing to prevent prohibited individuals from illegally acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms in a concealed manner? The news certainly does not suggest such to be the case.

 

What are you going on about?

 

The permitting requirements of these states are doing nothing to prevent prohibited individuals from illegally acquiring and carrying firearms in a concealed manner. Nor are charges for such actually being pursued in a court of law when they are caught in the act.

The only time such restrictions are actually being utilized, is for the purpose of prosecuting those who are out of state, who possess a wholly valid concealed carry permit, that is unfortunately not recognized in the state at the time of the arrest.

These restrictions are not being used to address the actions of criminals. Instead they are being utilized to prosecute what amounts to paperwork inconsistencies.