RUSSIA'S SECRET OPERATIONS

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  1. rover77

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    'In 2000 a study was published by the defense ministry's Institute of Military History, titled Russia (USSR) in Local Wars and Military Conflicts of the Second Half of the 20th Century (general editor: Maj-Gen V.A. Zolotarov). It appears to be a most comprehensive and detailed study, containing not only casualty figures, but also descriptions of Soviet forces' combat operations in secret wars, deployment patterns, evaluation of military hardware performance, etc.'

    The us is constantly criticized for it's interventions overseas, maybe this will put that in perspective


    Source:http://www.bu.edu/iscip/vol12/felgenhauer.html
     
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    The article is dated and what are listed as examples of Soviet involvement in local conflicts during the Cold War are nothing new. The Mitrokhin Archive contains something more interesting. In 2014, the Churchill Archives Centre released Mitrokhin's Russian-language notes for public research, which are the largest openly available KGB data trove.

     
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    I worked with former CID and MI guys who who infiltrated or monitored the Vietnam era anti war movement , because KGB was involved
     
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    It true, the counter culture movement in America were stooges of the Kremlin.

    The leaders of the Students of a Democrat Society (SDS) knew that they were doing the dirty work for the Kremlin.

    Bill Clinton attending college in England under a Rhodes scholarship and organized anti war demonstration in Europe and the liberal bias MSM gave Bill Clinton a complete pass when Clinton went to Moscow in 1969. What the **** was Bill Clinton doing in Moscow back in 69 ?

    Maybe Clinton had a really special American passport. My first passport that I got in 1971 listed numerous countries I was forbidden to visit, Cuba, North Korea, North Vietnam and the USSR.

    Jane Fonda, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Tom Hayden, Obama's best friends Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dohrn knowing or unkowing were all stooges for the Kremlin.
     
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    I am surprised there is no expose on SDS.
    Betweeb 1970 and 1974 I attended
    Orange Coast College. a California Junior College.
    California State College San Jose and Long Beach.
    University of California, Irvine.
    All 4 campuses had chapters of SDS. Being anti Vietnam I checked them out.
    Hardly democratic. All four had a president years older than the rest of us who was a perpetual student, changing majors before he could be graduated. Where did he get his funds for such a luxury? Then there was his adoring, iron haired babe and his chief toady who was the short squat, toady looking guy. By the 3rd campus I knew something was not kosher.
    I realty hope an expose of the SDS of those days does come out.
    Unfortunately, if you were anti Vietnam, there was no other standing organization to gravitate.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    snidely-whiplash.jpg
    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Today the SDS has become the Democrat party establishment.

    You went to Orange Coast JC. I got one semester in 68 at El Camino JC before getting my orders to report at MCRD (Marine Corps boot camp) I remember the SDS booths set up on campus.

    After my tour of duty I enrolled at CSULB and the SDS was also their in 71.

    Pretty sure they were on every college campus in California just following their marching orders from the Kremlin.

    Back in the day California's community colleges were referred to as junior colleges and they were tuition free meaning the only thing you had to pay for were the books. That was back when California was still great. That all ended I believe in 1978 and it's been down hill for California ever seance.
     
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    I got my years wrong, make the above 1966 - 1970

    If you've been around the country, one should see the California Junior College system is a great system. The first 2 years of a 4 year college degree with units that transfer. As well as teaching industrial trades like Commercial Jet Engine mechanic. Goldenwest in Huntington Beach use to manage a TV station.

    Yes I would like the whole story on SDS from those days, sometime.

    Regardless of Russia's involvement or not, let's face it -
    :flagus: does it a helluva lot more!

    APACHERAT, do you believe in American Exceptionalism?
    How about Black Exceptionalism? Like the Right to Riot.
    Moi believes in California Exceptionalism! :woot: The Greatest State.
     
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    The top leadership of the counter culture movement and the SDS were mostly "Red Diaper Babies"

    They did get their orders from Moscow.

    One of those leaders was David Horowitz who was kinda like the SDS liaison officer for the Black Panthers.

    No better source on the SDS than one of their own former leaders.

    I remember reading in the OC Register in the late 1980's that West Coast CC was offering a 3 unit course on how to properly drive a 4X4 vehicle or dune buggy off road because most didn't know what the **** they were doing and the U.S. military only had a few off road vehicle courses around the country.

    During the 60's and 70's before California's Jr. Colleges were reclassified as community colleges, El Camino, Pasadena City College and West Coast were at the top as the best Jr. colleges in California.

    Looks like El Camino which was academically rated the # 1 jr. college in America during the 50's and 60's and early 70's no longer makes the list, probably because of the changing demographics in the are.

    West Coast is # 2 in California today and Pasadena CC has dropped down too # 5 in California.
    http://www.edsmart.org/top-community-colleges-california/
     
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    Remember Governor Reagan's budget cuts on State higher education.


    Also what of American involvement in the domestic affairs in foreign nations?
    I'm sure that makes any SDS operation look small time.
     
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    The SDS never opposed the Vietnam War, they opposed the U.S. military winning the war in Vietnam.

    It was around 1965 when the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (ring a bell ? think of Bernie Sanders) that was heavily infiltrated by CPUSA at the time who contacted the SDS and told them by organizing the anti draft and anti war movements that were all ready protesting they could get a larger crowd at their rallies to further their Marxist agenda.

    One, Two, Three...Many SDS's
    by David Horowitz
    Hand-Me-Down Marxism and the New Left
    Ramparts Magazine -> http://www.unz.org/Pub/Ramparts-1969sep-00016
    , September 1969, pp. 16-18 - PDF

    The Horrific Story That Prompted David Horowitz’s Conservative Transformation -> http://www.theblaze.com/news/2013/1...d-david-horowitz-conservative-transformation/
     
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    Okay.
    Okay.

    Bad Commies. Bad. Bad.
    Wow, did you see Thailand go Red after the dominoes fell over Vietnam?
    Laos and Cambodia were well on there way. No domino.
    How much were "we" lied to?
    Have you been watching Ken Burns, The Vietnam War?


    The question YOU keep avoiding is:
    By what factor More or Less to you think :flagus: :salute: does the same?
    Half as much?
    Twice as much?
    10, 100, 1000, 1,000,000 etc. times as much in financing and infiltrating domestic situations in foreign nations. And then occasionally toppling a gov't.
    ;)
    And they lie to us. Saddam and WMD. etc. Same lies. Different wars.
     
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