Zuckerberg admits Russians gamed Facebook during the election last yea

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  1. Ndividual

    Ndividual Well-Known Member

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    All I actually admitted is that I find each of them unacceptable.

    Provide your definition of each if you wish and I'll let you know if I change my mind.
     
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    The cucks are ALL on the Alt Right.
     
  3. JakeStarkey

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    You are using the terms, but do not know what they mean.
     
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    A hanging... for speech?
     
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    Go back and read, please.
     
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    Like I said, provide YOUR definition of each and I'll then tell you if I find either definition acceptable as a form of Centralized government I would find acceptable.

    I'm assuming that you DO know what they mean of course, or are you simply attempting to initiate a meaningless back and forth.
     
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    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    I use the accepted terms and definitions.

    If you disagree with standard terms and defs, then you really are not in the discussion for realz.
     
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    I did. You're saying they're colluding with the russians to make pro trump facebook posts........ and that merits hanging. Speech.

    Are they exchanging state secrets dude?
     
  9. JakeStarkey

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    If the courts find espionage and treason, then, yes. We will have to wait.
     
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    How is a facebook post treason?
     
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    That will be up to the courts, not you.
     
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    I'm asking you how you think what you're predicting will work out. I KNOW how the courts will answer, I'm trying to probe YOUR thought process there chief.
     
  13. JakeStarkey

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    You have no idea of how the courts will proceed. That will depend on the fashioning of federal charges once all the leads of evidence are traced to the end.
     
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    On whether or not a person making a facebook post consisting of political speech is a crime or not, I know exactly how the courts will rule. Political speech is not a crime.
    For what reason do YOU think this is treason and could be actioned as such?
     
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    The first amendment does not provide a bar to treason. If the purpose of said speech was to interfere in our sovereign elections, then federal law was violated. I am quite interested to see the framing of the indictments. Aren't you?
     
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    If all that was accomplished was a simple political post on a forum, which is what facebook is, no conduct occurred that rose to the level of treason. Hence no indictment will be forthcoming.
     
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    Let's see if the defense lawyers try that out on the judges. :)
     
  18. Ndividual

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    As do I.

    And while I fully accept the definitions of the terms, it is their application that I find unacceptable.

    Perhaps we should return to the threads topic for further discussion.
     
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    You have not so far, and I will point that out again when you do it.

    Words and terms have definitions and meanings.
     
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    And what will the charge be? Writing a post expressing a political opinion?
     
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    A political opinion hidden as a normal expression in the midst of a campaign by a foreign agent of an enemy is not going to be charged? :)
     
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    Charged with what? What statute is it that makes political speech illegal?
     
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    Too bad that does not work for you, Reality. The DAs will come up with splendiferous charges.
     
  24. Ndividual

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    Have not what?

    A quick google search returned the following definitions:
    SOCIALISM: a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

    DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM: a political ideology that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production, often with an emphasis on democratic management of enterprises within a socialist economic system.

    COMMUNISM: a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

    Do you accept them as being correct? If not post your corrected definitions.

    I find them both adequate in definition and unacceptable for employment by our Federal level of government while only slightly less acceptable by our State level of governments.

    Clear enough for you.
     
  25. JakeStarkey

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    Let's help you. "should be owned AND regulated by the state" and not "owned OR regulated"

    Your definition of Democratic Socialism is incorrect.

    Your definition of Communism is close enough.

    Libertarianism is the flip side of Communism, in that a 'society of equals' instead of 'cadres' will oppress the working people.
     

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