Conservatives: What did Hitler get wrong?

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  1. dairyair

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    I can do nothing about your opinion.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your opinion is that you can stop political violence with government threats? Historically it's worked: never. But hey, let's hear your argument about how things would be different if you were in charge.
     
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    You are correct, I deny the reality of Bizarro World.
     
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    Conservatives also fail to point out how whites commit far more corporate crimes, engage in overseas wars, export terrorism such as Bush's two wars, Abu Ghraib, and CIA subversion. I challenge the right wingers to include those stats among their forum postings as this would make a HUGE difference in crime stats based on racial makeup of the criminals.
     
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    Such wit. :roflol:
     
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    The funny thing is that they many conservatives, who hate being compared to Nazis, are going out of their way to ensure that Neo-Nazis are viewed as victims following the terrorist attack in Charleston. They go out of their way to show that it's liberals, and not the neo-Nazis who are the "real terrorists". And they support a President, who openly called for Nazi policies to be implemented in the US, including forced registrations of all Muslims, and requiring identification badges for Muslims in public. He even went as far as calling for Muslims to be banned from owning businesses, which was one of the first anti-Jewish policies put in place by Hitler.
     
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    Hitler supported Naziism. That may seem trite to say since he invented Naziism but he didn't really have to use it to gain his ends. Hitler was, arguably, the greatest political genius that ever lived. He didn't have to have Naziism to come to power, as is amply illustrated by his own career which didn't really use Nazi principles to gain power nearly as much as to keep power in the later stages when he'd messed up royally by going to war.

    And that was his second big mistake. Had Hitler not supported Naziism and gone to war he would probably have lived to a ripe old age, and Germany would be ruling a sort of United States of Eurasia to this day.

    The Jews would all be alive and probably the wealthiest and most influential ethnic group existing, there would have been no Holocaust/Shoah and no WWII. There would probably be no Israel either. I am not sure what the status of the Soviet Union would be, if it still existed. The existence of militant Islam would be possible but very doubtful, IMO

    Hitler illustrates very well what can happen when very gifted people turn evil.
     
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    Scratch a conservative and you get a Nazi every time, the only reason they hate being compared to Nazis is they recognize that most of us view Naziism as a profoundly anti-American, ( and Anti-freedom and even anti-LIFE philosophy). Look at your Trump rallies, hundreds, if not thousands of them were throwing the Nazi salute, and this was when most of them thought they were going to lose, they were just that anxious to tell everyone how much they hated us all;
     
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    Attacking the messenger because you cannot refute the FACTS is a tacit admission of defeat and a de facto concession of your position.

    :roflol:
     
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    Puerile ad homs are all you have!
     
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    Why Hitler failed? Because like Berkeley CA, after he shut up all opposition speech, and coerced every German citizen to accept fundamental transformation, hope and change, he crossed one too many lines, like the borders of Poland, France, and then broke the alliance with Stalinist Leftist Marxists by invading the USSR.

    Hopefully this same treachery will occur in the Democrat party, now that Berkeley is a secure bastion of totalitarian Leftist Antifa, and they will attempt invasion of USA outside their campus and get squashed by Patriotic Americans, just like Hitlers Nazi Reich was.
     
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    Ironic!
     
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    Sorry you don't like that accurate assessment of your posting style.
     
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    I saw nothing in either link indicating any racism whatsoever.
     
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    he just did. False assertions by you are not facts. Hate is hate, violence is violence. If you can't at least understand that you are part of the problem rather than part of the solution. Trump condemned all the violence not just the part of which you disapproved.
     
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    PC is protection from some people getting their feelings hurt. How many time in your life have you had your feelings hurt by someone? PC is creating a generation of wimps who don't know what to do when their feelings get hurt so they try to prevent it from happening. Well guess what, it is going to happen no matter how much people try to be politically correct.
     
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    You ask, "What did Hitler get wrong?" I'll try to be specific and answer your question relative to my opinion.

    Hitler lost a war he was on-track to win, primarily because of four blunders:

    1. Through his delusional, drug-addict "Air Marshal" Hermann Göring, Hitler switched his aerial bombardment of England from purely military targets to a wholly inefficient, pointless bombing of general civilian areas. Experts have concluded that if Hitler had maintained his original strategy of bombing only military targets, England would have been forced to surrender in no more than one more month....

    2. In having excluded the participation of highly-educated German-Jewish scientists and researchers, Hitler lost any possibility he had of gaining atomic weapons before the United States did. Hitler had commented that he thought nuclear science was, "Jewish nonsense".

    3. Hitler never should have declared war on the United States after the Pearl Harbor assault by Japan's Navy. He did it to honor the German alliance with Imperial Japan, but in doing so, he played right into the hands of both Churchill and FDR, who had been toiling away for years, trying to find a way to get the U. S. involved in the European War against Germany -- which Americans had wanted no part of after the horrible experience of World War I.

    4. Possibly Hitler's single greatest error of all -- double-crossing the Soviet Union by invading it with a badly-planned and badly-executed "Operation Barbarossa". If he had simply maintained the non-aggression pact with Stalin which Hitler had achieved in 1939, Hitler could have focused all of his power and resources on defeating England and consolidating the gains he had made. Historians agree that Stalin had no intentions of moving against Hitler, and that he (Stalin) was completely surprised when Hitler attacked him. The Soviet Union had enjoyed the plunder of dividing up Poland with Germany, and the Russians and the Germans were getting along very cordially -- until Hitler betrayed the Russians.

    Thus, with the safety of hindsight to support my viewpoint, Hitler would have won the war -- and he would have won it easily, if he had only not made these four crucial mistakes....
     
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    What gov't threats? And where did I say gov't threat will work?
    But we'll see, is the donnie gonna get people to stop kneeling with his threats?
     
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    But there are no laws, AFAIK. Just others making a statement against those who want to use words to hurt another person or groups.
    Yes, IMO, you can't protect against words.
    Hence why earlier, I made a statement that sticks and stones should apply. If you've heard that saying.
     
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    Yes and I made that reference earlier in this discussion as well. There are those on the left who are trying to bend hate speech laws to suit every PC ideal.
     
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    Not Wimps bullies who believe they have the right to shut down any ideas they don't want to hear on the basis of their feigned outrage over almost anything. They are charter members of the church of the perpetually offended, and they are offended by almost anything not attached at the hip to leftist cant.
     
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    You are entitled to your biased and erroneous opinion.
     
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    So you don't see white supremacists nazis as being racists? :eek:

    That says volumes!
     
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    BZZZT Wrong!

    Your BLOTUS walked back his statements and he EMBRACED the vile racist white supremacist nazis.

    Your BLOTUS is the PROBLEM and so are his supporters that embrace racist white supremacist nazis.
     

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