I don't know what all the fuss is about; I mean £40b - better to think of it as 40 thousand million pounds? - to propitiate foreigners who hate and loathe us - is par for the course for this pathetic apology for a 'government', and hey, it's only taxpayer pounds so what the hell - just hand it over to them and keep them happy. What they're really thinking is 'How much more stupid can those dumb Brits get? It's like taking candy from a baby!' Those whom the gods wish to destroy etc' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-brexit-threats-florence-extend-olive-branch/
I'm all for more time to get Brexit right, I'm even all for paying for that extra time.. Because... I don't honestly see it being done right in the two year time frame. I like four years better, not six, but four years, not two, but four... I'm aware Ireland/Northern Ireland 'UK/EU' border has to be sorted out according to the EU and I'm concerned of other things... So, I would like more time. This what the UK has formerly asked, two more years making it four in total. Whether or not it happens is down to the EU now.
I believe that despite all the warm words and promises Theresa May will keep us tied to Brussels for as long as she can. Come the next general election the main manifesto pledge by either party will promise the final steps of withdrawal, but if it is won on that pledge government will not honour it. Only Nigel Farage will ever get us out but he'll never be given the opportunity.
I'm shocked .... Imbeciles have seized power in Britain. In fact, the British are in the occupation of degenerates, who seized power. From the point of view of a mentally healthy person, a payment of 40 billion can not be explained by anything other than a betrayal of national interests. I'm not a Briton and I can speak as an outside observer. And I see the striking similarity of the British government with Judah from Carioph. Only there is a slight difference. Judas betrayed one man and then repented and hanged himself. The British government is not capable of repenting. In other words, Judas is almost holy in comparison with Theresa May.
That about sums it up. There's a saying here that 'The inmates have taken over the madhouse.', which seems perfectly apposite?
They just had 2 years extra time and did nothing with it. In another 2 years they will again have done nothing and then add another 2 years. No. There is no way out of the EU except through war. It is time. Civil war to get rid of politicians who refuse to represent us. When the EU joins in to support politicians against the people of this country, then kill them all too. There is no legitimate government in this country. No laws need be obeyed. Don't bother paying taxes or turning up to court. Park where you like, do what you like. Sorry but that's how it is. The price for leaving the EU is war. This is not a democracy. So its a price worth paying. The only way change of leadership can occur. If democracy is respected those things that the EU and Westminster need to fix, will get fixed the minute they can no longer have them and not before. This negotiation is not between the UK and the EU government. It is between the UK and the UK government. If the EU sides against us, then we must take out their leadership too. I would prefer no war, but it takes two. Unless they fear us, there will be war. But I don't think they look very scared. My advice, sell up and leave. The EU wants a war. It's spoiling for one. They've got something to prove. Our own government, thinks we are *******. That we will bow before them. It will have to go. Electorally, there is no way to go. Unsuprisingly all major parties still support EU membership. Vote Corbyn, vote May, get EU. And honestly, vote Boris and you will get the EU too. He wavered on the EU vote almost as much as Theresa and Jeremy. He is pursuing a higher agenda. Farage needs to be negotiating. No one else can be trusted. That's why we elected him for that job. They won't let him and in my lifetime, there will be one hell of a war here.
Well it isn't rocket science to realise that the longer they can hang it out, the more money top negotiators and their battalions of 'advisers' will make. I had an ominous presentiment after the referendum it would go pear-shaped and it sure has - big time! I'm sick of the bloody word Brexit.
Exactly, but it'll never come to pass; as has happened in the US, once the establishment close ranks against an outsider, their vindictiveness, dissembling and lies to destroy that outsider is unrelenting until it does destroy them, and things can all settle down again. What a ****ing farce, and what corruption. And they have the nerve to call it 'democracy'?
Wasn't there an attempted coup against Heath or someone back in the 70's.... its a thought... Oi May come over here lass... Quite right! Why is everyone so bloody scared of the EU divorce process FFS.... its simple we voted out so move on lets go! Screw trade deals based on EU models what's the worst that can happen we leave and we trade on the same basis as most other countries do! If is so hard to trade with the EU how come the bloody place is awash with Chinese goods they import over EU1Bn per day or something like that!!
Two answers the the second para: 1. We're **** scared of becoming 'the nasty party' again, and 2. Scared stiff of upsetting the liberals by not being seen to do 'the decent thing'. Oh and 3. Upsetting our 'partners' across the Channel. How they must be laughing at us.
They have their eye on the ball for getting the next EU deal once this one is cancelled. What they are looking for is transition. A seamless transition from one EU deal into the next. So seemless as for us to not even notice it all. The emperors new clothes. Unfortunately I am looking for something quite different. I'm looking to end EU deals. EU deals are to be negotiated by our democratic representatives at the EU. Farage and co. I consider that rejoining the EU or making some new EU deal like Canada or Turkey will take decades. Thank god. A few decades off. The idea that we must stay in the EU until we get a new deal is ridiculous. We voted to leave, not stay in. So that's it. We've left. Government must now catch up with reality. If they wish to rule here, then no EU deals. They have no mandate to make them, they never did and they aren't ever going to be given one. Every time they try, they are the enemy of the country. We are out in the open with this now. It is a straight forward battle between people and palace. Is this a representative democracy or not? Do we rule you or do you rule us? It's out in the open, 17 million people have all asked the question at the same time. And Theresa May has given the wrong answer. Tried to stamp her brand on it. Put herself at the leadership of it. Wrong answer Theresa May. The correct answer is "sir yes sir". I declare the UK out of the EU. All she had to do was say those words. Like we pay her to. It's not that she can't do her job, it's that she won't.
