Not sure where to start on this one...I suppose its very easy to stand up and say "look at all thats' wrong in the world its all nasty!! But, vote us in and we'll make everything right". Someone in the background says "but how?" McDonnell just waves it off "don't worry about the details vote us in and it'll be fine". How many trillions of pounds of debt are we committed to now?
Trident upgrade which will never be deployed in anger Two shiny new aircraft carriers waiting for some planes to put on them HS1/2 EU contributions for the next 2 or 3 years followed by the exit payment NHS on the brink of meltdown The cost of restoring the British Virgin Islands to normality after the hurricanes The cost of rebuilding Iraq and Syria when the time comes . . . and the list goes on. I think our 'lords and masters' have all conveniently forgotten about the national debt?
I don't know about you but I make a pretty decent salary but I'm getting to the point where I just look at the amount of tax I pay and the commitments I have to my family and start thinking bolloks to it! Screw the NHS... screw the Grenfell people.. screw the homeless... screw the virgin islands and as for building bloody aircraft carriers and trident submarines so that some wazzok in a uniform can pretent he's blood Lord Nelson fcuk em!! And then McDonnell pipes up oh yeah we're going to spend trillions on buying back contracts and probably incurring further trillions in contract frustration claims... ah what's the piggin point....rant over. Sorry
Depressing init! I often look at it this way; we have useless parasites at the top, useless parasites at the bottom, and those of us in the middle are paying for it all? Actually I envy the braindead whose only concerns in life are which contestants they want to vote off in Big Brother, The X Factor, and The Great British Bake-off!
I don't make a lot of money, "screw all that" comes quick. So I am braindead now, a robot until I get some more money and then I can start wondering what I need to do with it all. That would be nice wouldn't it? Not constantly worrying about food or rent while rich ***** look down their noses at you for your lack of charity. I think I might be saving up to leave.
No it doesn't. It creeps up on you... salami slices...bit by bit . You look at what you do earn and what you pay over as tax and then see it pissed out the window on screwed up ideas and political pandering to a voter base so's to keep some ******* in power. If there wasn't so much money pissed out the window then there would be more money for charity and good causes and helping, housing, feeding kids having left Uni who are trying to find work. I'd pay my taxes without a peep if I knew it was being hubanded by wise poeple. I don't blame you mate!
I found it alarming that 'somehow' Jeremy Corbyn was in the news tonight. Jeremy Corbyn's policies aren't news worthy in the sense that he's not in power and anything he plans to do is just plans on paper which is no different than any other hobby which really isn't something to be in the news, since he actually can't do any of his back up plans for government since he's not actually in government and the UK already has a government, so, again, why is he in the news?
I hope that isn't a pluralised rude word, where the first letter is 'c' and the middle one 'n', because you're sounding ever so angry. It would be an appropriate word to use though. Just trying to lighten your day. Me too, but to where? I honestly can't think of anywhere that I'd want to decamp to.
A Scotsman with a sense of humour? Don't think I've ever met one before! Good job we can laugh about the crap we're having to put up with though?
Seriously? You don’t think the policy statements of the official opposition party should be reported? You think the government (whoever that is) should have a complete monopoly on political news and nobody else’s opinion should receive any attention?
I think I want a refund from the BBC everytime they waste news time on Labour when Trump and Korea are going at it and British government's all over Europe from David Davis visiting the Hague and Boris Johnson's in Brussels talking about the EU and Brexit... While real news is going on (and these things were), the BBC covering Corbyn is not news. Thankfully though, I turned to Sky News for some real news, unfortunately, the BBC are public and so charge me despite my say so or will throw me in jail, so, yes, for not giving me news/for paying Corbyn attention on my dime... I stand by what I say. I just don't regard any of his plans as news since he just can't do a thing about it no matter what plans he comes up with. Especially when I want to watch 'real' news.
The BBC covers those things when there is actually something to report. Nothing significant happened in relation to Korea yesterday so what could they report beyond pointlessly repeating things? There’s also little to report about a couple of ministers having private meetings-about-meetings in Europe. Nobody is going to say anything about the specifics so all they’d get is the same old generic rhetoric. There will be important things to report about Brexit but “Men go in to room” is not it. The policies of the opposition party, especially one with some potential of electoral success, are significant and new things were announced at their conference that have potentially huge significance to us all (good or bad). That made it perfectly legitimate news yesterday. It isn’t news today and so the stories will have moved on to other things. That wouldn’t just apply to Corbyn though. You’re saying that nobody should have their opinions or policies reported anywhere unless they’re in government. That sounds like a step towards dictatorship to me.
The BBC's remit is to dumb down the populace and at the same time vulgarise us, and a great job of both it is doing too!
The PFIs allow government "borrowing" without it being on the government's balance sheet. Yes there is the penalties, and then there will be the recognition of the billions (trillions?) of existing "debt" that is not being currently recognized. It will be an extremely difficult thing t do in practice. I hate PFIs, though. Would prefer to see the a-end of them. Maybe a moratorium on new PFIs and allow for the existing bunch to expire.
I'm more inclined to listen to the Liberal Democrats now since I don't want Labour to be the voice of opposition, Labour call for anarchy and Socialism, Labour want to turn Britain into Cuba ffs.
What's the point of becoming a landlord unless Labour subsidise your tenant so rent is both paid and affordable? But then, Who's going to pay for this subsidy in the first place? Workers, the Landlords etc etc... What else are workers and landlords going to pay for a long with this subsidy? benefits to benefit cheats PFI contracts for the NHS I've heard enough, **** Labour.
I guess that’s at least more honest that your previous argument. You don’t want all opposition silenced, just any you happen to disagree with.
I honestly think Labour hate the UK. Why would I listen to Labour? They don't respect our democratic ways, they create chaos for the working man (by influencing unions to strike and cause chaos because they lost an election), they want to rob the public, pacify the public and make us a laughing stock of the world with unemployment and industries that have been turned into jokes over unions and strikes such as the automotive one in Britain before it went overseas and foreign companies with UK factories being all that's left. - And when London voted remain and Brexit happened, Jeremy Corbyn occupied Parliament Square for a whole week that week just to fight off a Labour coup. - He cared not of the fear and worry us Londoners had over Brexit that week and the Pro EU march was forced to wait for him to vacate our spot to protest the government. Corbyn's just a selfish bastard who puts his stupid party before the country, and kicks us when we're down and worried to save his own sorry skin.
Nobody is forcing you to listen. Your argument was that they shouldn’t be on the news at all, that nobody should be allowed to listen because (as you eventually admitted) you disagree with their policies. That’d be like me saying you should be banned from this forum because I disagree with you? You’re free to argue (or rant) against the policies of any politician or party you want. I’m not hugely interested in that to be honest as I have pretty much equal contempt for them all. When you assert that anyone should be denied a public platform just because you don’t agree with what they’re saying though, I’m going to speak up as a matter of principle.
Well yeah, that day I turned on the TV to see about Trump and N. Korea or whatever Britain was up to... I got Corbyn... So I switched to Sky News (the one who doesn't force me to pay) and got told the news and who was doing what where, and nothing to do with a Labour Conference. Did you know, that there is a Conservative Conference in October in Manchester? I'd like to see that get airtime too, since Labour got theirs. Hell, why not the Liberal Democratic Conference or The Green Party? (I would say UKIP but I bet their conference would have 3 people attending and Nigel Farage on YouTube on LBC doing his show there instead). Labour, don't deserve all that news on the BBC since the BBC is news and their conference is just them being them and government and the economy would have to fall for them to be taken seriously, and I'm not against planning contingency plans, I'm just wary of Socialists doing it like it's something to take on board and they're just waiting for it to happen.
Take reviews of a bad system. The so called 'I say so called because I don't trust Labour' the "so called" PFI review. It's bad, it's dead, kill it, use NHS money on the NHS for Heaven's sake and only open a PFI review to close PFI contracts bleeding money out of the NHS, don't even begin to make everything like the NHS and then review PFI. This opens up the possibility of Royal Mail PFIs closing Post Offices and making 1 Post Office cost as much as 100 Post Offices opening in 30 years worth of debt while the postal worker's on strike stealing my mail.
At that particular time maybe. I’m sure the BBC reported news other than the Labour conference and I’m sure Sky did report it (they have plenty about it on their website after all). I don’t see why it wouldn’t, they always have done in the past. You’re acting as if this kind of coverage of the major party conferences is something new or special. Again, just because you fundamentally disagree with their policies doesn’t stop their conference being legitimate news. Some people fundamentally disagree with Trump and some people fundamentally disagree with Brexit but you want those to be in the news. You really need to look beyond your personal political preferences.
