How to tame Putin?!?!

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  1. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Some of us do have family connections to east bloc....yes...not all.
     
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    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Long before that.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It means the the rhetorical device "some say" is extremely flexible, enabling the utterance of all kinds of nonsense and untruths without actually having the speaker own up to them himself.

    it can be effective in deflecting the conversation without actually having to prove or substantiate anything that those "some" might "say".

    I could go on about application of such a device, but I hope you get the idea.
     
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    That's sick, man. Why hurt their people? We are WAY too far up Putin's rear end. Let him do his own thing and if he threatens to attack us, then we'll act.

    This whole Ukraine nonsense is NONE of our business. Ukraine isn't a US ally.

    I'm so sick of hearing his name. We wouldn't have to worry about Putin had Obama not acted like a retard.
     
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    Except the pope actually knows something about devil worship.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hahaha. I get it, the black man is to blame for Putin's actions. I knew it had to be something like that. God if only a "real" american were running the show back then, eh?
     
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    The half white man is to blame for getting involved in Ukraine, a NON US ally.

    Yes, it would have helped if someone not so stupid were running the show back then. Same goes for Obama the dumbass arming Syrian Al Qaeda fighters.
     
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    And the Americans knew nothing about communism? The results of communism were very clear in the USSR, China, NK, East Germany, etc.

    Your assertion that the U.S. didn't understand communism is stupid.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its is evident that most americans don't know a lot about communism and the evidence of this can be seen in those that call "liberals" communists, or constantly conflate socialism with communism. IOW they demonstrate a decided lack of understanding by their useage of the term to begin with.

    My assertion is not that the "US" didn't understand communism, my assertion is that many Americans don't understand communism. If you wish to ascribe that to stupdity, okay, I prefer the more tactful attribution of ignorance.


    BTW, Commies are on my list of personal bigotries.
     
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    If you're saying there are Americans who don't understand communism and therefore have a neutral or favorable view of communism, I'll agree 100%.
     
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    "How to tame Putin?!?!" ... send him a cheesecake. :D
     
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    Nothing new in this article. A set of old cliches.
    Such "experts" have already led you to a condition when you blame Putin for everything, including poor yeld of milk in Texas cow farms.
    Intellectual impoverishment more and more becomes a key feature of US political environment. That's no good.
     
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    Much like the Russians blame the US for just about everything....including their hemmoroids.
     
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    This is a good article that clearly explains Putin's real motive. It's called a divide and conquer strategy for achieving political or military control, which the British often employed to take over Asian or African colonies. But I don't think Putin is worried about how the Russians think about the West or his autocratic style. The Russian oligarchs are free to emigrate to London or New York. Putin's real goal is controlling the West and making the world a better place for Russia, which can be achieved without the use of force.
     
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    The USA and West told Russians and the USSR "tear down that wall and join us!" Tis was done. But instead, then the USA and West just laughed and said "HA! HA! Gotja!" We then urged the break up of the Russian Federation, though we fought a Civil War to stop a breakup of the USA.

    Instead the USA should have formed an economic and political alliance with the new Democratic Russian Federation and, if so, it would have been the most powerful economic, political and, if necessary, military alliance in the world. BUT this would have cost tens of thousands of jobs in the intelligence community, a great lose of power and influence, and cost the military industrial complex and Western global elites trillions of dollars.

    The Intelligence Community did NOT want Hilary Clinton. She was too volatile, too much a hot head, and repeatedly said she wanted direct war with Russia over Syria, something the Joint Chief of Staff testified before Congress would mean war with Russia itself and that the military would refuse to do it. Instead, they preferred Trump, who promised ramping up military spending. All they had to do was eliminate his promise to establish detente' with Russia - which is what the Russian investigation crap is all about - to keep Russia defined as an adversary for another century for money, power, and income this brings to the intelligence community and the militarists.

    Russia is not now nor has it ever been an enemy of the USA. Russia poised no risk of invading Western Europe, let alone the USA. It is ALL about money and power fo the intelligence community, the military, the military industry, and the global super rich who make hundreds of billions on interest of the debt this creates in the USA and every country - free interest money on non-existence pretend money theyc laim was loaned on the debts.
     
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    I am also saying that there are many americans with a negative view of communism that don't have a friggin clue what it is which results in their ignorant and emotional conflation of communism and socialism. Worse they are also generally too entrenched to even remotely be curious as to the differences while remainly completely oblivious to how actual socialism touches their lives on a daily basis.
     
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    the amazing thing is that you actually believe this utter nonsense.

    Worried about how hot headed Hilary was the intel community though they't be way better off with somebody like trump who's cool demeanor, grace under fire and fabulous leadership skills.




    Who knew all that cold war business was actually just a /corporatist/elitist/military plot to con poor taxpayers around the globe to give them money.

    I hate to shatter your delusions, so I'll leave it at that.
     
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    Yep, idiots with a lot of nukes are no good for the world.
     
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    I agree, our idiots in DC are very irresponsible rulers. And of course war mongers. But that is all that can be expected from sociopaths. And people who no longer represent anyone in america but special interests and a group of a few very wealthy elites who own the wall street banks and MNCs. The evidence for this is pubic record, congressional record, which was the evidence used by Princeton academics in something called the Princeton Study. It was a hugely important story, since it evidenced we are now subjects to an oligarchy, which is a form of fascism touted by Mussolini, which MSM refused to put any importance on it. But when 6 major corporations are in control of our information, called the news, why would they bust out what they are a part of? Not in their self interest to inform the People this truth. And so few americans even know they live under fascism.

    This may explain why we seem to be itching for a war of MAD, or at least a new expensive cold war with russia. It seems not enough of our tax dollars and borrowed money is being spent on our war industries, and the CIA thinks it needs more money and a much larger burocracy. To fight the communist revolution that russia is waging again. Uh, I mean to fight the anti globalists like russia. Can you believe they see national sovereignty as basic and important? While our ruling elites want any sovereignty here in the hands of the banking cabal and MNCs. Like any oligarchy or corporatocracy demands? Boy, russia sure has the nerve huh? Good thing they have nukes, or Putin might get a bayonet shoved up his arse too! For being against our rich elites who depend upon slave labor globalism.
     
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