U.S. Airport Bomber Caught Last Week - Bet You Heard Nothing About It

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Hmm, so Michael Christopher Estes is white just as I said last week in the thread that was closed down!

    Little doubt that he is a white supremacist with the usual proclamation of white supremacist being native American. Little doubt that he wanted Muslims to be blamed for the bomb
     
  2. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think he was a nut. Probably Bipolar. We'll know more when he comes up for trial.
     
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    Yeah, according to police booking records he's native American ... judging from his photo he's every bit as American indian as Liz Warren ... Faux-cahontas.
     
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    Third "we heard nothing about this cuz he is a white guy" thread and third OP destroyed... Keep race baiting guys.
     
  5. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Names can be deceiving. Look at how many black Americans are name Washington, Jefferson and other English names.

    Looks can be deceiving. Native tribes require between 1/16th to 1/4 Native American heritage to claim membership. That said, based on his father's comment, you are correct; he's as Native American as Liz Warren. :)
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This story got so little play probably because no one was killed or injured. "News" is predicated upon viewer interest. No interest? They switch channels.

    ....http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...-be-airport-bombing-nabbed-with-help-from-rei
    For the first few days, this story received little attention outside of North Carolina. Now, it has been brought to the national spotlight, largely because Shaun King, a columnist for the Intercept, wrote about Estes on Wednesday.

    King pointed out the particulars of the story — an improvised weapon, planted at an airport, by a man who said he was declaring war. King asked what would happen if the attacker were "an immigrant, or a Muslim, or a Mexican ... Mainstream American outlets would be covering the heroic bravery of those who thwarted the terrorist plot. ... in this case, though? Crickets."

    Every year, law enforcement officers in America make multiple arrests over improvised explosive device plots or incidents in which no one was actually injured. The level of news coverage, as King notes, can vary enormously.

    Here's a sample of such incidents from this year:

    • In February, Adam Hayat allegedly made several explosive devices and left them at a hotel in downtown Denver, scrawling "explosives" on a closet door mirror. He was later arrested in Los Angeles. His federal case is ongoing.
    • Also in February, a Florida man named Mark Barnett allegedly created improvised explosives to plant in Target stores along the East Coast as part of a profit-driven bomb plot. Someone he allegedly attempted to recruit to his plot turned Barnett into authorities and he was charged in federal court; his federal case is ongoing.
    • In July, Luke Mullen was arrested after allegedly making bomb threats against the Colorado Springs Airport; police say he had four explosive devices and a machete inside his vehicle.
    • Also in July, a blast outside the Bixby Air Force Recruitment Office in Oklahoma caused property damage but no injuries. Benjamin Roden, a former airman, was arrested and is facing federal charges in connection with the incident.
    • In August, Elijah Blankenship in Ohio was arrested and charged with creating multiple homemade explosives. His arrest came shortly before an anti-racist vigil in honor of the victims of the Charlottesville, Va., attack, but court records don't indicate whether there was a connection to the event.
    • In September, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced that Douglas Kennedy of Tifton, Ga., was charged with manufacturing explosive devices after a bomb went off in the parking lot of the Tift Regional Medical Center; no one was injured. Kennedy had allegedly constructed and detonated at least three other bombs, none of which hurt anybody.
    • Earlier this month the FBI unsealed charges against three alleged ISIS supporters accused of plotting attacks in New York City in the summer of 2016. The alleged plot, which involved improvised explosive devices, was foiled by law enforcement, the FBI says.
    In each of those instances, an apparent plot was never carried out to completion; if a bomb did go off, no one was hurt. None of those stories made headlines here at NPR.org.

    Barnett's Target scheme, the Bixby recruiting station blast and the foiled ISIS plot were covered in many national outlets.

    Hayat, who is of Pakistani descent, received relatively little coverage in the national press but was featured on multiple right-wing websites, including Breitbart News.

    Other incidents, including the arrests of Mullen, Blankenship and Kennedy, were covered almost exclusively on the local level.
     
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    If this is true, not good. However, I believe that the right has a much culpability for fomenting social conflict as the left.
     
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    Right. Despite all the evidence to the contrary, the big corporate interests dole out the BS equally on the left and right. Perhaps you should spend a little time learning who is pulling your strings.
     
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    How many RW news outlets are there?
     
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    So the unhinged left are murdering at an unprecidented rate because they lost the election and you blame the winner?

    Do you see anything wrong with that?

    If the right went nuts over Obama and murdered people like this would you blame Obama?

    What does this say about you?
     
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    I didn't make the claim. I did a google search after reading the OP. The results were pretty mediocre.

    As to wearing your patience thin, why would I care a millisecond? As evidenced by the dismal views everyday Americans have towards the MSM, peoples patience has worn past thin with the fraud, deceit, manipulation, and misrepresentation your MSM partners display every hour.

    Click bait may be the preferred food of the obsessed who can't read past the dog whistle headlines, but to the majority of the nation, it represents the death of the 4th Estate.
     
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    Excellent update, Max. Thanks!
    So far, not mentioned I think, is how much of this crap is instigated by the FBI in the first place. One story mentioned this obvious nutcase getting reduced time or charges due to cooperating with other investigations or something.
     
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    I disagree with the "MSM" conspiracy theory meme. "News" is a business. Big business. Cable news, in the quest for ratings (because ratings = $$$) show only what holds their audience's interests. Unlike the ol' days when there were only three channels and one had to get out of their chair to change the channel, today viewers have hundreds of choice all easily selectable with the flick of a remote control. The "MSM" isn't the problem, it's fickle viewers who have the option to actually learn something or just feed their own opinions. Most choose the latter.
     
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    Why would the FBI instigate this?
     
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    Seems like an accurate guess. It appears there are some who believe the number is considerably higher. And Fox News itself is watched by how many people?
    Some must believe it's in the 10's of millions, despite the fact the highest rated shows on the network pulls 2-3 million viewers. My guess is they are just echoing the memes they read from the multitude of far left news channels they can select from.
     
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    Enough to make Fox and their stars rich.

    http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/the-top-cable-news-programs-in-q2-2017-were/333623
    Fox News lays claim to 14 of the top 20 cable news programs in total viewers this past quarter, led by Tucker Carlson Tonight. Hannity ranked No. 3 in total viewers, followed by The Five, Special Report with Bret Baier. The Story with Martha MacCallum finished No. 7 in total viewers, with The Fox News Specialists, America’s Newsroom and Outumbered rounding out the top 10.

    Additionally, 5 out of the top 10 in the 25-54 demo hail from Fox News. They include Hannity (No.2), TCT (No. 3), The Five (No.4), Special Report (No. 7), and The Story (No. 9). FNC programs posted double-digit gains in the 25-54 demo compared to the same quarter last year, including Fox & Friends, Pres. Trump’s go-to show, which is on track to have its best year ever from a ratings perspective.

    MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show had a banner second quarter of 2017. Maddow was the most-watched cable news show among adults 25-54, and was the No. 2 cable news show in total viewers. The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell ranked No. 6 in total viewers for the quarter, with All in with Chris Hayes coming in at No. 11, Hardball with Chris Matthews at No. 14, and 11th Hour with Brian Williams coming in at No. 18.

    MSNBC and CNN programming more in-roads in the A25-54 quarterly ranker. On the MSNBC side, Maddow ranked No.1 overall, with The Last Word coming in 5th, All In at No. 8.

    CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 was CNN’s top show for the quarter, and finished No. 6 across cable news in the A25-54 demo. Erin Burnett Outfront delivered a record-setting quarter, both in total viewers and in the A25-54 demo. Outfront earned the No. 10 spot across cable news in the aforementioned A25-54 category.

    Ironically, repeats of Forensic Files (HLN) and Shark Tank (CNBC) were the most-watched cable news shows outside of the big 3.

    Prime Time Justice with Ashleigh Banfield was HLN’s most-watched original program for the quarter. Lou Dobbs Tonight was Fox Business’s most-watched original program for the quarter. Squawk on the Street was CNBC’s most-watched original program for the quarter.

    Morning Express with Robin Meade was HLN’s top original program in the A25-54 demo. Squawk on the Street was CNBC’s top original program for the quarter in the demo. Lou Dobbs Tonight was Fox Business’s top original program in the demo.
     
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    The media, and the people who generate content for it, are well known to support liberal causes and viewpoints. Many well known journalists have admitted as much in Op Ed's and on broadcasts. The Podesta Emails revealed this incestuous relationship.

    What I do agree with is that the MSM is a business, and it exists to attract viewers. The more viewers, the more they can charge advertisers. Taking their liberal viewpoints to heart, they have abandoned journalistic ethics to create dog whistles and click bait to juice those audience numbers. It seems the MSM doesn't care about the number of times they have been caught lying, manipulating, and deceiving. As long as the click bait achieves the desired results, it's all good. It's apparent their target audience is quite willing to respond to their efforts.

    Is that what we want from the News Media?
     
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    Worked up by antifa.
     
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    The question was, how many viewers does Fox News have. From all that information you posted, what is the number? How many individuals watched Fox News?

    For example, from May:

    http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/cable-news-ratings-fox-news-msnbc-1202017940/

    This marks 61 consecutive quarters that Fox News has finished number one among cable news networks in total day and primetime viewership. Fox News averaged 1.72 million total day viewers, with 359,000 of those falling in the key adults 25-54 demo.Mar 28, 2017
    So how many viewers do the liberal Network News broadcasts reach each broadcast?

    Try over 23 million combined

    http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/evening-news-ratings-week-of-oct-2-2/344365

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    1) Anything to the Left of Far Righters are, in their eyes, "liberal".

    2) While we are agreed that "MSM is a business", let's not forget that viewers are not forced to watch. I usually watch about 30 minutes of HLN and 30 minutes of local news in the morning. Regular CNN is often too left for my tastes. I rarely watch Fox and even more rarely watch MSNBC.

    3) In America, corporations, regardless of industry, are always about the money.
     
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    What's your point? That poor people don't have cable?
     
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    Are you trying to suggest I am a "far righter"?

    It is well known that people scan headlines to get their "news". Rarely do they dig into the "meat" of a story. Perhaps they read the first paragraph or two of a story, if it's of particular interest. Whether they read the whole story or not, merely clicking on the story is sufficient to register a unique visit, and therefore generate revenue. Hence, click bait/dog whistle news has become the norm.

    And their target audience are those consumed by social media and similar forms of communication.
     
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    RW media barely exists, and certainly it's audience draw is minimal at best.

    I would have thought that was pretty clear.
     
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